Alonso Summoned to Appear at WMSC Hearing in Paris Tomorrow

DF1 · Sep 21, 2009

kraftwerk said: ↑

I'm thinking the FIA will be watched closely today, as to what they will do.

They have never been consistant, Renault and when they were the Benetton team have been let off in the past, on a cheating charge, ruling that illegal modifications were made by a junior employee.

The FIA International Sporting Code which states that the entrant shall be responsible for all acts or omissions on the part of their driver, mechanic and passengers, each equally responsible for any breach of this code

The rules also state that the federation can punish any breach of the regulations committed by any organiser, official, competitor, driver, or other person or organisation.

So thats Flav and Symonds sorted, the FIA seem to think there is no reason to suspect that Alonso was part of the plot... we shall see.

If there was ever a time for a clean up in this sport it is now, starting with Mosley.
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Why on earth is this taking so long?!!! Dont they know at the FIA in Paris some of us have work to do. More importantly we need to debate this on Ferrarichat and that takes time from work and family as well!!! Yield the verdict!!!

They could have implemented WORLD PEACE by now

kraftwerk · Sep 21, 2009

DF1 said: ↑

Why on earth is this taking so long?!!! Dont they know at the FIA in Paris some of us have work to do. More importantly we need to debate this on Ferrarichat and that takes time from work and family as well!!! Yield the verdict!!!

They could have implemented WORLD PEACE by now
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LOL I think there are going to have to think very carefully on this one.

kraftwerk · Sep 21, 2009

Ari Vatanen, the former World Rally Champion, who is disputing next months FIA presidential election, says that the Renault-Singapore scandal is just the tip of the iceberg and symptomatic of a wider problem in the sport. Vatanen was talking to Britains Sunday Telegraph.

What the public see is a corrupt sport, he said. They do not trust it and who can blame them?

I should make a thread on this very subject but lets get the Renault thing out of the way.

GO ARI!!!

DF1 · Sep 21, 2009

kraftwerk said: ↑

LOL I think there are going to have to think very carefully on this one.
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THINK? CAREFULLY? Not words often used by the FIA

Anthony_Ferrari · Sep 21, 2009

DF1 said: ↑

Why on earth is this taking so long?!!! Dont they know at the FIA in Paris some of us have work to do. More importantly we need to debate this on Ferrarichat and that takes time from work and family as well!!! Yield the verdict!!!

They could have implemented WORLD PEACE by now
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I know! I keep refreshing my Twitter to see if anything has happened yet. Piquet Jnr has left and made no comment to reporters. I guess they're having lunch now so it might be a few hours before anything is announced.

Anthony_Ferrari · Sep 21, 2009

According to this site: http://www.f1sa.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=17380&Itemid=219

the took just 90 minutes. A decision is expected today in the next 4-5 hours.

DF1 · Sep 21, 2009

Anthony_Ferrari said: ↑

According to this site: http://www.f1sa.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=17380&Itemid=219

the took just 90 minutes. A decision is expected today in the next 4-5 hours.
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Anthony thank you for the update!

VIZSLA · Sep 21, 2009

Anthony_Ferrari said: ↑

According to this site: http://www.f1sa.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=17380&Itemid=219

the took just 90 minutes. A decision is expected today in the next 4-5 hours.
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Why not?
With the FIA the decision was made before the hearing.

greyboxer · Sep 21, 2009

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8266090.stm

Anthony_Ferrari · Sep 21, 2009

The news in full:

Official: Renault handed suspended ban

21/09/2009

The Renault F1 team has been handed a two-year suspended ban following today's hearing in front of the FIA's World Motor Sport Council.

Former team boss Flavio Briatore has been banned from Formula One activities including driver management.

The full statement issued by the FIA reads as follows:

At an extraordinary meeting of the World Motor Sport Council held in Paris on 21 September 2009, the ING Renault F1 team (Renault F1) admitted that the team had conspired with its driver Nelson Piquet Jr. to cause a deliberate crash at the 2008 Singapore Grand Prix, in breach of the International Sporting Code and F1 Sporting Regulations.

Renault F1 stated at the meeting that it had conducted a detailed internal investigation, which found that: (i) Flavio Briatore, Pat Symonds and Nelson Piquet Jr. had conspired to cause the crash; and (ii) no other team member was involved in the conspiracy.

The FIA has conducted its own detailed investigation and its findings correspond with those of Renault F1.

At the meeting of the World Motor Sport Council, Renault F1 made the following points in mitigation:

# It had accepted, at the earliest practicable opportunity, that it committed the offences with which it was charged and cooperated fully with the FIA's investigation;

# It had confirmed that Mr. Briatore and Mr. Symonds were involved in the conspiracy and ensured that they left the team;

# It apologised unreservedly to the FIA and to the sport for the harm caused by its actions;

# It committed to paying the costs incurred by the FIA in its investigation;

# Renault (the parent company, as opposed to Renault F1) committed to making a significant contribution to FIA safety-related projects.

Nelson Piquet Jr. also apologised unreservedly to the World Motor Sport Council for his part in the conspiracy.

The following decision was taken:

The World Motor Sport Council finds that Renault F1 team members Flavio Briatore, Pat Symonds and Nelson Piquet Jr. conspired to cause a deliberate crash at the 2008 Singapore Grand Prix. The World Motor Sport Council therefore finds Renault F1, which, under article 123 of the International Sporting Code, is responsible for the actions of its employees, in breach of Articles 151(c) and point 2(c) of Chapter IV of Appendix L of the Code, and Articles 3.2, 30.3 and/or 39.1 of the Formula One Sporting Regulations.

The World Motor Sport Council considers Renault F1's breaches relating to the 2008 Singapore Grand Prix to be of unparalleled severity. Renault F1's breaches not only compromised the integrity of the sport but also endangered the lives of spectators, officials, other competitors and Nelson Piquet Jr. himself. The World Motor Sport Council considers that offences of this severity merit permanent disqualification from the FIA Formula One World Championship. However, having regard to the points in mitigation mentioned above and in particular the steps taken by Renault F1 to identify and address the failings within its team and condemn the actions of the individuals involved, the WMSC has decided to suspend Renault F1's disqualification until the end of the 2011 season. The World Motor Sport Council will only activate this disqualification if Renault F1 is found guilty of a comparable breach during that time.

In addition the World Motor Sport Council notes Renault F1's apology and agrees that the team should pay the costs of the investigation. It also accepts the offer of a significant contribution to the FIA's safety work.

As regards Mr. Briatore, the World Motor Sport Council declares that, for an unlimited period, the FIA does not intend to sanction any International Event, Championship, Cup, Trophy, Challenge or Series involving Mr. Briatore in any capacity whatsoever, or grant any license to any Team or other entity engaging Mr. Briatore in any capacity whatsoever. It also hereby instructs all officials present at FIA-sanctioned events not to permit Mr. Briatore access to any areas under the FIA's jurisdiction. Furthermore, it does not intend to renew any Superlicence granted to any driver who is associated (through a management contract or otherwise) with Mr. Briatore, or any entity or individual associated with Mr. Briatore. In determining that such instructions should be applicable for an unlimited period, the World Motor Sport Council has had regard not only to the severity of the breach in which Mr. Briatore was complicit but also to his actions in continuing to deny his participation in the breach despite all the evidence.

As regards Mr. Symonds, the World Motor Sport Council declares that, for a period of five years, the FIA does not intend to sanction any International Event, Championship, Cup, Trophy, Challenge or Series involving Mr. Symonds in any capacity whatsoever, or grant any license to any Team or other entity engaging Mr. Symonds in any capacity whatsoever. It hereby instructs, for a period of five years, all officials present at FIA-sanctioned events not to permit Mr. Symonds access to any areas under the FIA's jurisdiction. In determining that such instructions should be effective for a period of five years the World Motor Sport Council has had regard: (i) to Mr. Symonds' acceptance that he took part in the conspiracy; and (ii) to his communication to the meeting of the World Motor Sport Council that it was to his eternal regret and shame that he participated in the conspiracy.

As regards Mr. Piquet Jr., the World Motor Sport Council confirms the immunity from individual sanctions under the International Sporting Code in relation to this incident, which the FIA had granted to him in exchange for volunteering his evidence.

As regards Fernando Alonso, the World Motor Sport Council thanks him for cooperating with the FIA's enquiries and for attending the meeting, and concludes that Mr. Alonso was not in any way involved in Renault F1's breach of the regulations.

The World Motor Sport Council would like to thank the Stewards and legal investigation team (in particular Dorothy Cory-Wright of Sidley Austin LLP who conducted the interviews at the Belgian Grand Prix).

The full reasons for this decision, in addition to a complete recording of the proceedings before the World Motor Sport Council, will be made available shortly.

Article from Pitpass (http://www.pitpass.com):

Published: 21/09/2009
Copyright © Pitpass 2002 - 2009. All rights reserved.
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jknight · Sep 21, 2009

What a bunch of ****.

Carol

VIZSLA · Sep 21, 2009

jknight said: ↑

What a bunch of ****.

Carol
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What surprised you?

the_stig · Sep 21, 2009

Renault F1 has received a permanent ban suspended until the end of 2011.

Anthony_Ferrari · Sep 21, 2009

It's all pretty much as expected really. A suspended ban for the team and a severe punishment for Flav. No fines though which is a bit of a surprise. It sticks in the throat that Piquet gets no punishment when as far as I'm concerned he's the most guilty of the lot.

jknight · Sep 21, 2009

VIZSLA said: ↑

What surprised you?
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not a thing - it was known what the outcome would be prior to all this waste of time and money!

Carol

Gilles27 · Sep 21, 2009

Piquet Jr. receives immunity from individual actions. But I wonder what the sentiment will be towards him around the paddock? Any remaining stock he had is now worthless in my book.

VIZSLA · Sep 21, 2009

So Alonso is without a ride for the rest of the year?
When does Ferrari hold the press conference?

Anthony_Ferrari · Sep 21, 2009

VIZSLA said: ↑

So Alonso is without a ride for the rest of the year?
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Why? Renault have a suspended ban.

Modeler · Sep 21, 2009

VIZSLA said: ↑

So Alonso is without a ride for the rest of the year?
When does Ferrari hold the press conference?
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I've only glanced at the releases but isn't Renault's ban suspended?
Alonso is cleared so its business as usual there, no?

VIZSLA · Sep 21, 2009

Anthony_Ferrari said: ↑

Why? Renault have a suspended ban.
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That part was not in the early report I read.
A delayed ban that won't be enforced if they don't reoffend?
No fine?

Anthony_Ferrari · Sep 21, 2009

VIZSLA said: ↑

That part was not in the early report I read.
A delayed ban that won't be enforced if they don't reoffend?
No fine?
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Correct. Flav has a life-time ban from FIA events which means that Webber, Heikki, and Romain need new management.

Modeler · Sep 21, 2009

VIZSLA said: ↑

That part was not in the early report I read.
A delayed ban that won't be enforced if they don't reoffend?
No fine?
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They volunteered costs.

VIZSLA · Sep 21, 2009

Modeler said: ↑

They volunteered costs.
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Not exactly a McLaren sized fine is it?

jknight · Sep 21, 2009

VIZSLA said: ↑

That part was not in the early report I read.
A delayed ban that won't be enforced if they don't reoffend?
No fine?
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"Scot Free" as it were.......F1 has taken a nose dive into the dumpster.

No mention about Charlie Whiting/FIA knowing about the incident last year and STILL NO word about the September 15th meeting.

Carol

VIZSLA · Sep 21, 2009

Despite my earlier suspicions it looks like Max is not determined to drive the manufacturers out.

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