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  1. lotusk

    lotusk Formula 3

    Nov 3, 2003
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    Hi

    Probably been asked before but can anyone suggest a way of removing a broken bolt from a not that is welded in place............there is a small amount of the bolt coming through the nut but this will not budge when trying to turn it with a pair of pliers.......the top of the bolt is completely shorn off and I have tried drilling through it but it's made out of kryptonite and won't be drilled!...........help ....this bolt needs to come out so I can correctly secure the battery in my 355
     
  2. beast

    beast F1 World Champ

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    You can try to weld a nut onto the top of the bolt. While it is still hot from the welder shoot some PB Blaster at the threads the try to remove it using the nut as a new bolt head.
     
  3. KKRace

    KKRace Formula 3

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    #3 KKRace, Sep 26, 2009
    Last edited: Sep 26, 2009
    Heat works great if you can use a torch without messing other things up. Other than that soaking with Liquid wrench, shocking it with a hammer or drilling it out would be the standards. If you know a welder that's real good with a TIG welder they can weld another bolt right onto whats left of the old bolt. The TIG puts real concentrated heat to the bolt without heating up the areas surrounding it. Usually after doing this the bolt unscrews by hand becuase the fast intense heat expands the broken bolt and breaks whatever bond is holding it in place. The bolt shrinks back when it has cooled and usually comes out easy.

    I have Tig welded onto broken bolts/studs even when they are slightly recessed below the surface without damaging the threads.

    You might even find that just heating up the broken bolt with the TIG and letting it cool will allow you to remove it with a pair of plyers.
     
  4. lotusk

    lotusk Formula 3

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    thanks for the quick reply

    have to find someone with a tig welder i guess
     
  5. AceMaster

    AceMaster Three Time F1 World Champ

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    that's a good idea
     
  6. dmaxx3500

    dmaxx3500 Formula 3

    Jul 19, 2008
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    what diam is the bolt ,can you use an easy-out?,,also try left-handed drill bits,also try getting it hot [red] then try putting a candle on it ,letting the candle melt into the treads,,be very careful using wd-40 and other penetrent oils on real hot metal the smoke they give off is clorene gas [also used in ww1 to kill people]
     
  7. CliffBeer

    CliffBeer Formula 3

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    It's unlikely the bolt is something really hard like a 12.9 grade. It's probably more like 8.8. A good drill will drill that out just fine but you've got to start with a decent new drill. A lot of the chinese drills are pretty junky to start with so avoid those.

    Make sure to center punch the broken stub first so you get well centered then just drill it out with increasingly large drills. Stop as soon as you see a thread coming through and then you should be able to just fish the remains out pretty easily with a small spike.
     
  8. Mr.Chairman

    Mr.Chairman F1 Rookie

    Mar 21, 2008
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    I would recommend drilling out.. but you need an air drill with a good bit.. Start small then increase in size until you get the job done..

    R
     
  9. beast

    beast F1 World Champ

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    If you are going to drill you need a Cobalt left handed bit Titanium-Nitride coated preferably. A good quality cutting oil and a high quality drill with a very low speed.

    Air Drills are useless as they don't have much torque at low RPM's. Drilling at high speed will only result in a burn drill bit. When using a Cobalt bit just make sure you don't put much pressure on the drill as you can snap the bit quite easy. The slow rpm and a sharp bit will do the work for you.
     
  10. cwwhk

    cwwhk Formula 3

    Nov 13, 2003
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    That's very good advise. Used this method successfully a few times myself. Do make sure to center punch the screw to prevent the bit from wandering as you start the drilling.
     
  11. glasser1

    glasser1 Formula Junior

    Sep 2, 2006
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    Although some cleaning solvents contain chlorinated compounds, WD-40 does not.
     

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