Since Jenson hasn't won a race in 7

And he's only been on the podium once in the last 7. Can we all say that if he wins the WDC it would be the most unworthy ever and that he's simply a mid pack driver that had a dominate car?

 

Points is points. It's that simple. Ask Massa....

 

I don't see how Massa has anything to do with this?

 

I totally agree.

He is poised to become the most unworthy WDC in recent mermory.

 

Most unworthy ever? Nah, didn't Rosberg only win one race in his championship year? I wouldn't say he's a mid pack driver, he's very good, but he was also very lucky at the start of the year and had many things go his way. I guess now is when we really see what he's made of. That said, I'm pulling for Rubens, lol.

 

...his current griping about being 'robbed' in the 2008 series, that's how. Use 'search'
for the relevant threads.

 

I'm well aware of the situation but I have no idea how it ties into this thread!

 

So do you suggest a "point redistribution" system to "make it fair"? HE GOT
THE POINTS. What exactly makes that 'unworthy'?

I'm not a Button fan.... but the rules are the rules. He has the most points, at least
so far. Did he cheat? Did someone in FIA cheat?

 

Because he's *****ing the POINTS should have gone in HIS FAVOR.

 

The driver is only one part of the championship effort. I'd guess that there are a few drivers that could win the WDC if they had Jason's ride.
There's little doubt that Stirling Moss could have won at least one championship if he had chosen different rides. So it works both ways.

 

No Ferrari ****ed the pits stop it has nothing to do with Hamilton!

No redistribution here! He was just an average driver in a dominate car that's all. He can barley get on the podium much less win a race when the Brawn is merely the fastest and not utterly dominate...

 

I will certainly agree that Brawn had a pretty darn good car to start. I'm not really
sure what happened since then.

By the way, the word is "Dominant" - Dominate is the verb, dominant the adjective

It's all just opinion. Not a Button fan here. Not a Brawn fan. Boring season overall, IMO.
Wish we could go back to the 'old days' before all the new rules.

I'll still keep watching the races either way. And if Button wins this year, so be it. Trust
me - I won't like it much either.

 

Thanks for the English lesson I'll remember not to confuse the 2 on my theist for my MBA.

Now back on subject please...

 

You're welcome. Happy to help out.

Jedi

 

Thanks for derailing my thread too! Of course that was your objective to being with...

 

He won a bunch of races at the first half of the season, and then on the second half, a bit of bad luck, and the Brawns were struggling. I'd say he's a worthy champ. He worked hard for it, and given the fact he didn't even know if he's gonna start 2009 is a bonus.

A lot of us tend to forget, with the stupid in season testing ban, there's only so much a driver can do to rectify any issues with the car, like in Brawn's case the problem to get the temperatures in the tyres. So, i think it's unfair to accuse him of being unworthy.

 

do you mean thesis? I think you still need English lessons.

 

When he wins, he deservedly will do so. If Rubens wins, he deserves it as well. Either way, it's gonna be a Brawn WDC/WCC this year. Go Killer Bees!

 

They guy has still the most victories of the season,
7 wins in a row isn't nothing.
doesn't matter if it was in the begining of the season.

 

It's ok I'm not getting my Masters in English...

 

yes and this gives additional insight...(this was written prior to the race)

f1 live

Jenson Button is still at stalemate with his boss Ross Brawn, who has hinted the Englishman might have to leave the team as world champion.

Button could wrap up the title at Suzuka on Sunday, but is locked in stalling negotiations to increase his retainer for 2010 from a cut-price US $5m.

He agreed to slash his contracted pay for 2009 in order to aid the management buyout, and has also been paying his own way in terms of hotel and travel expenses.

But Button's manager Richard Goddard told the Daily Star Sunday that he is "shocked" Brawn is refusing to offer anything more than a slight pay rise.

"We aren't being greedy," he said. "When we signed the deal last year, we did so in the knowledge that if all went well for the team, things would also go well for Jenson."

Team owner and boss Brawn hinted that the impasse could lead to Button leaving the team after November's Abu Dhabi Grand Prix.

"Those decisions have not yet been made but if we have a world champion who, for whatever reason, leaves the team, that's a shame," said the Briton.

Brawn's reluctance to offer Button much more money could be related to the paddock perception that - according to former racer Martin Brundle - the British driver is now "reversing" his way to the title after a strong start to the season.

Meanwhile, an opinion article in The Times reads: "After his barnstorming start to the season, (Button) decided that winning like a champion is not for him, resolving to win the title by stealth."

And a piece in The Independent said Button "will be a worthy world champion but his feeble showing in the latter part of the season proves he is well short of legendary status".

 

I guess it depends on how you qualify someone as worthy of winning a championship.

Jenson's already won more races this year than Lewis did last year, and if Bernie's wins based system had been introduced he'd have been crowned champion after Singapore.

 

I'd say it's easy to start 'discussing' Button's worthiness again since he has run into such a dry spell, all the while his teammate has performed much more consistently. Looking at their numbers in the first 7 races versus the last 8, it's interesting to see the change:

Rubens' average starting position went from 3.7 to 5.4 and points from 5 to 4.5

Button's average starting position went from 2.1 to 7.9 and points from 8.7 to 3

This tends to point the finger at the driver, and I'm sure Ross Brawn is looking at the results when tendering an offer to Jenson. But at the end of the day, I accept the Champion, whomever it may be. It would be much more exciting if the reverse were to happen--we typically prefer to see someone catch up against odds and win rather than win by clinging dearly to an early lead.

 

+100

 

Thirded!

Why does that sound so much weirder to say than 'seconded'?

All the best,
Andrew.