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is a 360 challenge a viable daily driver?

Discussion in 'Challenge/GT Cars/Track' started by ross, May 11, 2009.

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  1. 410SA

    410SA F1 Veteran

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    It's not even a viable racer :)
     
  2. dmaxx3500

    dmaxx3500 Formula 3

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    just try driving it ,its real cool looking
     
  3. ross

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    quoting myself here coz nobody answered that question and its been nagging me....
     
  4. DerWebMeister

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    You only live once and driving a proper race car anywhere is a thrill of a lifetime! The whole ownership experience is a personal fit. I'm a scratch & dent kind of guy, I would take your chance to own the car and not look back. The rougher it is, the better. Comfort and amenities would diminish the experience.
     
  5. Jompen

    Jompen Formula Junior

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    A simple answer to this is NO. Also remember that the really big difference in lap times between a CS and a Ch car are the slicks. A ch car on street tyres would be wierd.
     
  6. Mitch Alsup

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    Note: F355 is setup at the factory ride heights with factory spec tire sizes has only 4.2 inches of ground clearance.
     
  7. Testacojones

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    Is that in the 355 manual? That's pretty low!!!
     
  8. sailquik

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    A guy from the local Porsche Club where I used to live put a roll bar/cage in his 911 for use when he took the car on the track. Turning into the entrance to the racetrack, a car ran a stop sign and t-boned him. His head (not wearing a helmet) hit the roll bar and he died later that day, although no other injuries were sustained.

    Do not put a roll cage in a street car.
     
  9. Qksilver

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    Roll bars are safe for street cars... cages are meant for dedicated track cars.
     
  10. Mitch Alsup

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    I looked it up again, it is 4.65" of ground clearance. Sorry for putting it 0.4" too low.
     
  11. T355Challenge

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    #86 T355Challenge, Oct 5, 2009
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    I'm completly agree. My 355Ch it's a street legal car, and It's a pleasure drive it, but not recomended for a daily use..... streets are not prepared to this kind of cars.

    To have a Ferrari is something incredible, but more if you've got a Race Car prepared to go in the street. I'm agree with Jim, you should do it more "Stradale", taken care with disks and pads, roll-cage, etc.....

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  12. Aircon

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    are they the standard wheels? how'd you fit them over the brakes?
     
  13. jmillard308

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  15. T355Challenge

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    It's more stradale, white wheels are so racing.....and I prefered in grey.


     
  16. Pantera

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    lol!.
     
  17. Zack

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    It would certainly be a cool and fun ride, but you might tire of it quickly. Few weekends a year...is it worth it to get it for just that? How about campaigning it in some series and driving it on the street in small doses.

    Or possibly figuring out how to use it to raise money for charity at fundraising events so you get to do fun stuff with it even if you are not driving it as much.

    I like the idea...but it needs careful thinking to make sure it works for your circumstances.
     
  18. ross

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    another question, how often do you need to re-flash the gearbox software? ie how often does it go wonky? and does the overall engine management system need the same kind of attention or does it just continue without trouble?
     
  19. ross

    ross Three Time F1 World Champ
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    bump
    didnt get an answer to this last question. the car is still available and provided things go well for the next 10 days, i will likely pull the trigger....

    so can somebody knowledgeable on the engine management software give me a clue?
     
  20. technom3

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    perhaps talk to an Ferrari Dealer that has a history of running the cars. Or the tech/crew that ran their challenge team. Its been a few months and no one has answered, so i would set off on a different path to source your answer.

    P.S.

    I hope you are getting it for a steal, because with welded frame damage... Its going to be a tough one to shift when you are done with it.
     
  21. ross

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    #96 ross, Dec 22, 2009
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    thanks. will enquire with the dealer here.

    re the repair, i did check this out and apparently this is the normal repair for any challenge with front end damage. they literally take the whole front of the car off and put a new one on - which is what happened on this one. in any case it happened many years and about 15000 km ago, so i guess its alright. just out of curiousity tho, what price constitutes a 'steal' in your opinion?
     
  22. Ingenere

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    No AC. No real windows.
     
  23. cwwhk

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    #98 cwwhk, Dec 24, 2009
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    Unless your clutch is worn or some other F1 system malfunction, you don't need to access TCU with SD2/SD3. Some of the older version TCU does not allow reset of PIS.

    We ended up switching all our Challenge to Stradale TCUs for faster down shifts and PIS resets.

    By the way none of the 360C I have come across had door locks, but as others have pointed out the bigger problem is no ignition key or hood locks so a door lock does not really serve any purpose except to add weight.

    Oh, no parking brake either. So that's a problem for street use. You could leave the car in gear, but not having parking brake for street use is illegal in most jurisdictions.
     
  24. ross

    ross Three Time F1 World Champ
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    thanks for that. how difficult/expensive is it to switch to the stradale TCU?

    re some of the other responses; this one has a door lock installed, as well as locks in place of the pins for the rear hood. the front hood was replaced with a stock 360 hood during the repair so it opens normally (largely because the pins on the front are not allowed for swiss road use strangley enuf). and the owner says another thing he does is just to take the battery cut off switch handle with him as a 'key' since the perspex side windows dont stop much either.
    a handbrake was installed to qualify it for road use as well (along with all the others mods i mentioned a few pages ago).

    so what do you guys think is the right value of this car?
     
  25. cwwhk

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    TCU is about US$2,000. Plug and play basically. Just use a SD2/SD3 to make sure PIS is OK.

    I don't know your local market so I can not comment on the right value of a street legal 360C. In terms of world wide market for 360C as a track car, an average example is probably worth about US$80,000, while a fairly good one with GT aero kit is worth about US$90,000. They are going on 10 years old and are getting pretty tired if they have been used frequently on track.
     

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