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  1. Matthias Urban

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    I guess Marcel would be a propper source. He told me once in his very convincing kind, that is was not 1046, believed to be the supplier for Modulo by some of us, and that 1046 "is and was a 512 S Berlinetta". For 0846, my Book shows, that it is supposed to be, as you say, originally a P3/P4-Body, that was destroyed during test drives in Mugello, probably with a 612 CanAm-engine. Marcel quoted as well that there are no stampings to either the body or the chassis.

    To this knowledge I will change the entry in the Book as follows:

    0846 330 P3 Fantuzzi Spider 66 Red/Black RHD converted to P3/4, destroyed in Mugello, probably with a 612 CanAm engine, eng. # 0864, engine & gearbox used by Pininfarina for PF Modulo Geneva Show Car 70 Rosso Corsa then White thin Red stripe around the body/Brown RHD

    and will wait and see, what Marcel might say :)
     
  2. Bill_OBrien

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    I emailed the poster of the Youtube video to find out where it came from and how it was produced. There is an Italian design studio linked the person who posted the video:

    Person who posted video:

    Name: Paolo
    Age: 66

    Caratterialmente pragmatico sempre disponibile a nuove proposte riferite all'ergonomia e alla funzione.

    City: Gassino Torinese
    Hometown: Torino
    Country: Italy
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    Modulo on that site:

    http://martin.demaria.to.it/gallery.new/view.asp?nid=10&cgallery=Cars



    More info on the Modulo (in Italian):

    http://www.conceptcars.it/martin/modulo.htm
     
  3. Bill_OBrien

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    From Paolo's website:

    In 1967 I was employed by Pininfarina as Chief of the styling department directly under the supervision of Ing. Sergio Pininfarina and Dr. Renzo Carli.

    During a period of over six years I had the opportunity of making an exstraordinary experience and of having great satisfactions.

    Among my main achievements of this period are the design,the actual construction of a model on the scale of 1:10,and in many cases of a polystyrene or wooden model on the scale of 1:1 for the following bodies: DINO FERRARI BERLINETTA,DINO PARIGI,DINO GINEVRA,FERRARI SIGMA G.P.,ALFA ROMEO 33 ROADSTER, PEUGEOT 104,BMC 1800,BLMC1100,FERRARI 512 MODULO,FIAT 128 TEEN AGER,R.R.CAMARGUE,LANCIA BETA MONTECARLO,FIAT 130 COUPE',NSU RO 80.
     
  4. Bill_OBrien

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    Dear Bill
    shooting video was made by a Japanese firm "bodywork" in 1973 in a street with a slight downhill, the wheels steer about 30 degrees

    You can see my cars on the site http://www.conceptcars.it/ under Paul Martin.
    Thank you for your consideration,

    Paul Martin
     
  5. Matthias Urban

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    sorry, I have mistaken 0846 (obviously destroyed in Mugello as well) with 0864, what is in fact a 612 Can Am (I have it as "engine only", may also be "engine only remains"). Entry in the Book reads as follows:

    0864 612 Can Am engine only or engine only remains, eng. # 0864, engine & gearbox used by Pininfarina for PF Modulo Geneva Show Car 70 Rosso Corsa then White thin Red stripe around the body/Brown RHD
     
  6. Napolis

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    #56 Napolis, Sep 17, 2009
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    0846 was not "Destroyed at Mugello". It was not as Wayne pointed out used to build P5: http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showpost.php?p=138973814&postcount=4538
     
  7. Matthias Urban

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  8. Aardy

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    Jim,

    any comment ??
     
  9. Napolis

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    Still no answer from PF who said they'd look into it. Car very well may have been pushed but I still think special film effects may have been used.

    There may be no one left at PF who knows.

    Paolo Martin should know.

    Bill should ask him if any special film effects were used.
     
  10. Aardy

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    I don't care that special effects may have been used : the car was real, that's all.

    Some bad faith may be ??
     
  11. El Wayne

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    #61 El Wayne, Sep 17, 2009
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    Hey, hey, enough of that or I'll have to merge this thread into the "0846 Debate" thread and that would be a shame!

    There - did a little clean-up. :)
     
  12. stevenwk

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    I would think 'Krasnavian' should be able to tell how special effects (if any) were incorporated to make the car appear to move.

    Where's Marcel on this?

    I'm in agreement with Napolis, however, that the Modulo has never moved under its own power....
     
  13. Aardy

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    Agreement with Napolis ?? I don't see where he was right. He always said the car was not real.

    See my post # 2 of this thread :

    "Funny : all the sequences on the move are shown in way down as the car runs free-wheel..."
     
  14. Napolis

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    #64 Napolis, Sep 18, 2009
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    I never said "the car was not real" I said I thought the video used special effects to create the illusion of motion. It may have been freewheeling in some sections but I still think special effects were used in others unlike in the filmed sequences linked in my signature. Those were filmed without the use of special effects.

    There is no question however about Modulo's ability to propel itself. It can't.
     
  15. stevenwk

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    #65 stevenwk, Sep 18, 2009
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    I understand. There is miscommunication. The car exists. There is no question about that.

    Whether it moves under its own power is the point of contention. I believe it does not nor does Napolis. However, if you look at my earlier post, Automobile Quarterly stated that to see the car in motion is "eerie." (from 1971)

    I believe that the video may have been made around the same time as the article in A Q.

    But again, when that article was published the Modulo was in its light blue color scheme. The video shows the Modulo in white.

    Let's see what PF reports back with.
     
  16. VIZSLA

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    Which issue of AQ?
     
  17. stevenwk

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    Summer 1971. It is a beautiful edition of AQ. Yellow with an embossed imprint of the Modulo on the cover. Volume 9 #4.

    If you like I can scan and post...........
     
  18. VIZSLA

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    #68 VIZSLA, Sep 18, 2009
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    Thanks I have it. Just too lazy to search;)

    From the article "While we were moving the car around during our photography sessions..." doesn't make it sound like the car moved under its own power.
     
  19. stevenwk

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    Those old volumes of AQ are a great resource of information.
     
  20. VIZSLA

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    To be sure. I go back to them frequently.
    They take up about five feet of bookcase at this point:)
     
  21. Simon

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  22. stevenwk

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    Indeed.
     
  23. cara

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    #73 cara, Oct 7, 2009
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  24. Napolis

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    No. Two different chassis.
     
  25. sicqnus

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    Modulo = 512S
    512S speciale PF = 312P

    (to make a long story short).
     

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