Brawn Myth Buster?

I thought Button did a great job under pressure. Remember, until yesterday there wasn't much pressure. I would love to see what he would have done if there hadn't been any rain on Saturday.

 

The refueling rule for next year may be as big a wild card as the aero changes were this year.
Issues of weight, weight distribution, fuel economy vs. power and tire strategy are all reopened. Ross has shown a mastery of both strategy and tactics so I won't write Brawn off yet.
Red Bull has shown the ability to go from strength to strength and are in a very good place and may go all the way next year.
The only thing I know for sure is that something that no one has thought of will happen changing everything

 

I think it would have been interesting to see how the whole second half of the season would have gone if Button had had some pressure. His lead was so big, even as it dwindled away, he probably never felt like anyone would catch him. He was very aggressive yesterday.

 

Yes agreed, although he was getting flak and must have felt it, for driving to stay in the points, and not driving to win every race a sensible option as it turned out, until the last race starting 14th to finish 5th showed he can turn it on when needed, risky but worth it. What played into his hands was different drivers winning, in the later half of the season.

The pressure will be off his shoulders as in that he has a WDC under his belt so I suppose he can relax and really go for it.

It's a pity all the races can't be like this last Brazilian one, I thought it was awesome everything in it apart from rain and a Ferrari on the podium that is ..

 

Yes yes and yes. The refueling issue I can't make my mind up whether it's a good or bad thing yet.

 

Yesterday's race raised a question. Maybe its not the aero or the track design that's inhibited passing? Seems when needed, passing opportunities do open up.

 

The fact that we don't know makes it a good thing. For now at least.

 

This track has always allowed some passing. There was also more passing because of the different (wet or dry) setups, which allowed different cars to be going different speeds on different parts of the track.

 

A reasonable (but disappointing) explanation. Thanks.

 

Yes a combination of them all methinks, tracks do make the most difference though, ask NPJ and Flav..

 

"If we're honest" (to quote Jeremy Clarkson) Schumacher probably wouldn't have had the success he had without Brawn.

 

I wonder how big a deal tire wear will be next year during the races. If it'll be a pivotal variable, should be an interesting fight. Lewis and McLaren and Red Bull seem to historically be much worse in this area than Ferrari, and Jenson and Brawn.

Btw, what happened to user jk0001 (or something like that). Isn't he the Fchat mega JB fanboi?

 

Since everybody will have new chassis for next season it's difficult to say which ones will have problems with what will necessarily be very different tires. I would think the testing rules should be relaxed (although honestly I'm not sure how restrictive the off-season testing rules are) in the interest of safety if not performance.

Jack.

 

Where did you get that impression? Next year's cars are an evolution from this year's(like 07 to 08) with extra fuel capacity accommodated. The only team (apart from the new entrants) I think we can expect to have an entirely new chassis will be Ferrari since they stopped work on the F60 very early.

 

Although it is always talked about based on the chassis, it is interesting to note that the Mclaren was easy on it's tires until Kimi left, and now the Ferrari is said to be easy on it's tires. Hamilton, as you mentioned, has always been connected to bad tire wear.

It would be interesting if Bridgestone would bring 3 tire choices to each race, a 0 stop, a 1 stop and a 2 stop option.

 

That's an excellent point. One that I hadn't thought of since I've only been actively following the sport since 07.

 

I agree with the last sentence.

 

The larger fuel tanks are going to require a pretty significant change in the chassis, don't you think? Do any of the current tanks have the range to go an entire race? On top of the space, there's the additional weight to consider, as well as how it's positioned in the chassis....not really just a matter of bolting in bigger tanks, I wouldn't think.

 

interesting questions - now that Ross has won without MS and MS has not won without Ross. as Ross adds to his trophy list (WCC & WDC that drive for him) will that disminish MS's achievements over time? would MS have won as many championships if Ross was not there?

 

Wrong ... Renault did this twice already.

Pete

 

And McLaren beat everyone in 98

 

Congrats Tyrrell!!






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I predict a snore fest with cars running out of fuel at the end of the race or (like Massa last year) circulating at walking pace to prevent running out of fuel.
And because there will be less difference between the team's strategies (all on the same fuel loads basically) I'm affraid there won't be much overtaking.
FIA have failed to address the difficult overtaking issue. It's been a bit better than previous years, but still not how it should or could be. All IMHO.

 

not in my world they have.

Obvious brainfade for me, lol.

I said Mclaren and Ferrari

 

From what i heard, the Brawns were the most expensive 2009 cars. Remember, they were the first to abandon the 2008 cars and focus on the 2009 cars, and IIRC, they did it by April/May 2008.

Then they also have the best engines on the grid, plus a great leader like Ross, and also have interpreted the 2009 rules differently than the rest.