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Eradication of the front plate law in California

Discussion in 'California (Southern)' started by JWLee, Jan 13, 2009.

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  1. jm348

    jm348 F1 Rookie
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    Mar 21, 2007
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    Jeff M
    Done......:D
     
  2. mrpcar

    mrpcar Formula 3

    May 27, 2007
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    Robin
    Signed. My wife just got a ticket yesterday from her Bimmer.
     
  3. SonomaRik

    SonomaRik F1 Veteran

    we both signed and posted on other sites.
     
  4. GCalo

    GCalo F1 Veteran

    Sep 15, 2004
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    Greg Calo
    It's a $100.00 fine in S.F.!

    A customer stated he parked at a meter on MLK day thinking it was a metered holiday. He received a $60.00 ticket for the meter violation and a $100.00 ticket for no front plate!

    It is state wide statutory $40.00 (as of 1/1/09 from $25.00) but cities can add fees to bring it to $100.00.

    With revenue generation such as this do you think they would really do away with that requuirement?
     
  5. SonomaRik

    SonomaRik F1 Veteran

    Nope, not going to happen. Not to mention it does help law enforcement. However, I wouldn't mind just the ticket, and not having to drill in holes....

    Greg, heard you had a temporary solution to this

    rik
     
  6. dakharris

    dakharris Two Time F1 World Champ

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    I beg to differ. I did that. Seemed logical to get the ticket signed and mail back with $10, since I wasn't disputing my guilt, I was just making amends. If you do, it goes to a check processing center and they cash the check for $10 and throw away the signed ticket, but do not process the correction. Got a bill for $90 in the mail and was told that my license would not renew unless paid. Oh, and since I had missed the deadline to disupute, it was pay the fine or else.

    If you wish to fix and pay $10, you must first dispute the ticket. Then you get the ticket signed and pay $10. Do not mail the original ticket with the officer's wet-signed signature and $10 to the address on the envelope provided with the ticket....unless you want to spend hours on the phone and mailing copies of what you originally submitted.
     
  7. xraygun

    xraygun Karting

    Feb 5, 2008
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    signed and forwarded. I got one at LAX a few years ago parked right up against a post. The metermaid must have got on hands and knees to check.
     
  8. KraigG

    KraigG Formula 3

    May 25, 2006
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    Until this law gets repealed, do what a few members of a local Corvette club do: Bind the front plate to the front of your passenger sun visor, and flip it down when required. California law allows this practice, and the law only says there has to be a front mounted plate, no more than so many inches above the ground. Doing this complies with that law, and the club members carry, in their cars, the California Vehicle Code paragraph that states this law. They have yet to get a ticket.
     
  9. JWLee

    JWLee Formula Junior

    Sep 21, 2005
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    #59 JWLee, Feb 4, 2009
    Last edited: Feb 4, 2009
    That is a good idea.

    CALIFORNIA VEHICLE CODE
    :: SECTION 5200-5206 California vehicle codes index


    5200. When two license plates are issued by the department for a
    vehicle, they shall be attached to the vehicle for which they were
    issued, one in the front and the other in the rear. When one license
    plate is issued for use upon a vehicle, it shall be attached to the
    rear thereof.


    5201. License plates shall at all times be securely fastened to the
    vehicle for which they are issued so as to prevent the plates from
    swinging and shall be mounted in a position to be clearly visible,
    and shall be maintained in a condition so as to be clearly legible.
    The rear license plate shall be mounted not less than 12 inches nor
    more than 60 inches from the ground, and the front license plate
    shall be mounted not more than 60 inches from the ground, except as
    follows: ....
     
  10. GARY4RE

    GARY4RE Karting

    Jan 23, 2005
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    Signed...please keep spreading the word!
     
  11. TheMayor

    TheMayor Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    What would the cops at LAX do with no more "front plate law"? Hmmmmm... maybe look for terrorists?
     
  12. Huskerbill

    Huskerbill F1 Rookie

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    This can't be legal. The plate is too high off the ground and not on the front of the car. Can't work.
     
  13. JWLee

    JWLee Formula Junior

    Sep 21, 2005
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    The height should be okay since the maximum height specified by law is 5 feet from the ground and most sports cars would not top that even if you mount the plate on top of the roof :) Not sure about the plate being on the front of the car though. However, logically it would seem to make sense since the plate mounted inside the car would still be visible from the front.
     
  14. Blue 550

    Blue 550 Rookie

    Oct 4, 2006
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    Signed, thanks for the link.
     
  15. ducatidragon916

    Aug 31, 2009
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    George York
    I signed the petition how many to establish and abolish this law?
     
  16. EliminatorXP

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    May 11, 2009
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    Signed!

    I never install them on my vehicles anyway....never get pulled over either...

    Dave @ Innovative Detailing
     
  17. John Rice

    John Rice Rookie

    Apr 25, 2007
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    The only way to get this done is to get a lot of enthusiasts together and someone in the state assembly who will introduce a change in the state vehicle code. AND do a lot of lobbying. Believe me, the various PD associations will be against it. They always have been. I retired from almost 3 decades in law enforcement. The front plate is of little value as NO officer in his/her right mind pays attention to the front plate - it is always the back one. BUT it is an excellent excuse to stop someone or write a badly-needed-revenue generating ticket. And don't think for a moment it isn't about money.

    If enough people protest and keep protesting through their legislators and car clubs and make a LOT of noise it might be possible. Anything less is just wasting time.
    JR
     
  18. jm3

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    Lets hope the cop doesn't read this:

    "A casing, shield, frame, border, product, or other device that obstructs or impairs the reading or recognition of a license plate by an electronic device operated by state or local law enforcement, an electronic device operated in connection with a toll road, high-occupancy toll lane, toll bridge, or other toll facility, or a remote emission sensing device, as specified in Sections 44081 and 44081.6 of the Health and Safety Code, shall not be installed on, or affixed to, a vehicle."

    This law will NEVER be repealed. Too much money in it.
     
  19. hacker-pschorr

    hacker-pschorr Formula Junior

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    #69 hacker-pschorr, Dec 30, 2009
    Last edited: Dec 30, 2009
    Good luck guys, hope you pull this off. Recently Wisconsin tried to abolish the front plate. It was part of the 2010 budget to produce only one plate, charge the same fee.

    In the final hours of debate for the budget (with no opposition for the front plate change) the State Patrol and various city / county department heads marched into the capital and demanded it be removed from the budget. So we still have front plates......

    This is the mega-cliff notes version, but you get the idea.


    In most states if you read the fine letter of the law, license plate frames are illegal. Luckily most cops ignore this one, could be a big money maker in times of a budget crisis, like now.
     
  20. teej

    teej Formula Junior

    Jul 1, 2009
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    I got a ticket for it (a clear cover over my rear plate) as well as for no plate on the front, which is why he pulled me over. It was a CHP officer. As my window is sliding down, he opens with the line "This car isn't fit to be on MY roads..." to which I responded a little rhetorically "Excuse me?" - the fix-ticket writing started there. No other infractions.

    When I went to get my fixit ticket signed off, the other officer just laughed and said the CHP officer must have been having a really bad day for him to write me on those two items, and he says "It's guys like that that give us all a bad name...". I couldnt agree more. I've been pulled over for speeding, admitted it, get a ticket, no big deal, and the officers are nearly always cool about it, usually drop me down to a ticket that is a fine only.
     
  21. 1ual777

    1ual777 F1 Rookie

    Mar 21, 2006
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    A little off target but years ago the CHP wanted radar to increase their ticket count. At the time Willie Brown was Chairmen of the budget appropriations committee and he lived in SFO; some 90 miles away. Rather than move to Sacramento, he commuted back and forth at speeds that were 3-figure range. He knew that if the CHP got radar, he was one cooked dead duck. So every year he took it out of the budget and they never got the funding. Only after his term expired was it left in the budget and the rest...is an increase in cities budgets due to the tickets written.
     

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