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  1. seks

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    #1 seks, Nov 3, 2009
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    Hi all,

    As some of you or many have a large number of properties and f cars that you acquired alone or with a partner (husband or wife) you may have thought about how to protect your assets as we all live in a litigious society where people get "robbed" everyday by our legal system.

    How many here have made their partners sign prenups prior to getting married or forming any type of union?

    I mean if a person has one property to their name, signing prenup may not be as mandotary (although only an idiot would go in blindly into any union) but if you have 2 or more properties that you worked hard for to maintain and suddenly you come across your "true love" I think its imperative that you protect all your assets as hard as you can. Your partner may love you today, but who knows what they may think of you tomorrow?

    I think for many investors, f car owners, pre nups are an absolute MUST.

    I am not married, I do have a GF who I love dearly and care for as best as I can.

    Has anyone got any stories or personal experience to share?
     
  2. GuyIncognito

    GuyIncognito Nine Time F1 World Champ
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    I take lots of prenaps on Sunday afternoon watching football.




    :D
     
  3. seks

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    pre NUPs :p
     
  4. thirteendog

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    maybe I'm just old school, but I believe that when you agree to "until death do you part" there shouldn't be stipulations like "or until I get tired of you" or "or until you boobs and ass sag". I'm not married yet, but when I do I plan on only getting married once.
     
  5. chris marsh

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    I said that too, but the ex filed for divorce after 32 years.

    I tried and tried and tried to make it work, after 10 years of misery then I got raped by the lawyers.

    My ex in her infinite wisdom was sure I was hiding something from her, so she spent our entire life savings searching for something that wasn't there. SUCKS!
     
  6. 2NA

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    Good luck with that.

    I've been through it twice and the second time (before getting married) my future ex-wife and I talked it through at length about how we were so much more experienced than those fools doing it the first time and how we wouldn't fail. After all we had already "practiced" marriage before and knew what to expect.

    It made no difference except that I was careful to keep my house in my name and not adopt her kids. After 16 years they still call me "Dad" and we have a great relationship but I didn't have to start over with nothing when she decided to try her wings, again.
     
  7. Westworld

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    A prenap? I'm in!
     
  8. Sareve

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    No one plans on getting married more than once, but divorces still happen. With disturbingly high frequency I might add. Still, I hold the same view as you do, but that might change as I get older.
     
  9. Buzz48317

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    GREAT attitude to have! Like others have said sometimes crap happens, but a good attitude and a good partner sure help matters. Talked to a lady today that was married to her husband for 61 years...I have 53 more years to go to catch them.
     
  10. Liquid Assets

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    Im not putting anyone down but i think that if you do not do a prenup you will get a huge kick in the butt IF it doesn't turn out the way you would like it. These days divorce is as normal as marriage. If your OK with having your life's work divided in half if **** hits the fan than by all means go with the optimistic route... Me, i rather go with the safe route!
     
  11. WILLIAM H

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    I have a cousin who didn't get a pre nup. Now the beeotch is raking him over the coals

    I feel for him, will try to help out if I can

    Do yourself a favor and forget marriage. Much better to stay single
     
  12. Tony K

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    #12 Tony K, Nov 6, 2009
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    I realize that the more wealth that one has, the more difficult it is to find someone who truly and sincerely loves you, without wondering/worrying about how much of their love for you is you and how much of it is your assets. I'll bet that most people who divorce years later were themselves totally sincere going into it, with no intention themselves of ever divorcing. But money spoils many people. Blessed are the poor.

    With that said, I think talking about prenuptial agreements at a young age is an absolute self-fulfilling prophecy. A prenuptial agreement undermines the very purpose and spirit of marriage; If you don't believe that marriage is for life, then don't get married.

    And I have known many wealthy people who lived out successful, happy marriages -- probably more so than middle class people. I think in the end, it comes down to the values of the people getting married. Marriage involves giving yourself. It involves sacrifice. You are part of something much greater than an individual -- you are part of the nucleus of a family. That means putting the interests of your family -- wife and children -- first. When people live unselfishly like this, it brings greater happiness and joy than any form of self-gratification or self-indulgence. And in turn, you inherently teach your children the same through example. Some people inherently know this and live like that, and they have happy, lasting marriages. Some people never get this, never learn this, never understand this.

    I think the first criterion in finding a truly awesome wife is finding someone with values like these (above). Many people today will say that our society is in decline, and I think that one element of that is the fact that there are fewer (percentage-wise) women today who hold these values. But the same goes for men, too. Values are deeply rooted within people, and are difficult to change. If you don't see marriage as being forever, if it isn't a total giving of yourself, if you don't believe in sacrifice and unselfishness, then either do some searching and change yourself, or don't get married.


    Love is patient
    Love is kind
    It does not envy
    It does not boast
    It is not proud
    It is not rude
    It is not self-seeking
    It is not easily angered
    It keeps no record of wrongs
    Love does not delight in evil, but rejoices with the truth.
    It always protects,
    Always trusts,
    Always hopes,
    Always perseveres.


    ^^^ This is what love is. If you don't love her . . . or if you think she might not love you -- in other words if you and her don't meet these criteria -- then don't marry her.
     
  13. bounty

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    Marry when you're poor.
     
  14. joba

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    #14 joba, Nov 6, 2009
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    Pre nup or WALK. All kidding aside it may actually help a marriage having everything spelled out. It takes the incentive out of divorce.
     
  15. seks

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    Very true, if a woman likes the lifestyle then she will stay. Its a very deloicate subject so perhaps staying unmarried but in a long term relationship is the best way to go. If you want to part ways then so be it without any messy paper work.
     

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