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  1. flyguyskt

    flyguyskt Formula Junior

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    #1 flyguyskt, Dec 12, 2009
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    okay im going to link this to another thread but i wanted to start a seperate line about cost alternatives for us mere mortals who dont have thousands to throw at wheels and tires packages.

    for now this is what i am doing:

    wheels:
    bought 4 19" wheels from ebay for 299$ black 5spoke with polished lip
    (package comes with 2 8.5" fronts and 2 11" rears.) the rears are too positive because of the 3 inch lip so i called them and they were willing to take them back on trade for 2 more fronts. so assuming you ordered the 4 fronts right off the bat...

    wheel bolt:
    i went to the local tire and wheel shop and ordered tuner lugs 14mmx1.5 in 27 mm length. 1.50$ each so wow 30$
    no spacers needed


    255/35zr19 rear @26.0" tall(.1" short than OEM)
    235/35zr19 front @25.5" tall(exactly OEM)

    SO:

    299 for wheels(NEW)
    700 for tires(NEW) mount and balanced
    150 for shipping
    30 for chrome lugs(NEW)
    total

    1179 USD$$$

    i think this is very reasonable considering i see guys payin over 6k for just wheels!

    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=263409&page=2

    post 25 for cruddy pic

    curious what others have spent?
     
  2. ferrari 512 tr

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    well thats less than the cost of one factory 360 wheel without the tyre.
    U dont want to know how much for all 4 with tyres
     
  3. DonJuan348

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    Flyguy;

    fill out your profile so we know where you are from...also post a picture of the wheels and/or car...
     
  4. flyguyskt

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    as soon as i get all the bolts an tires in i will get you a picture...

    i will fill out profile right now
     
  5. Miltonian

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    Hopefully your lugs are longer than 27mm including the shanks and the threads.
     
  6. flyguyskt

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    nope if you look at and measure the threads inside the face of the rotor they are less than 3/4 of an inch inside the rotor to the end of threads. only about 7/16" of actual threads! 6 rows actually. so 27 mm will go past the threads of the rotor by 2 turns. these wheels are not like factory ferrai wheels that have huge spacer inserts. there is maybe 3/8 inch of material with a conical fit.

    27 mm will be more than enough length to give me 6 full turns of the bolt...already tried it before we ordered them.
     
  7. Hawaii

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    Can't wait to seem them mounted up on your car. Thanks for being the brave one. I was thinking of getting some wheels from the same company very soon too. Can't beat the price. A set I bought in-directly from them had a really small center bore hole and it was difficult to find a balance machine that would work on such a small opening. Let us know how this newer wheels come out. Very interested!
     
  8. flyguyskt

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    well the center bore is the same exactly as the ferrari hub. so no hub centric rings were needed.everything should be ready by friday...not that i can drive it in this snowy mess!

    you rwelcome for taking a chance. i figured worst case is i would only be out a thousand bux! best case is i would only be out a thousand bux! lol

    i mounted the wheels only with no tires and i think it is going to be AWESOME to look at!

    figured id do the leg and guess work for everyone on the site "wondering" if these would work. once im done i will post exactly what it takes to make these wheels work so it will be a simple bolt on for anyone interested
     
  9. James-NZ

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    So you are going to be running 8.5 inch rear rims? With the same off set as the front? With 255's on the rear....

    That should handle like a bag of crap...

    Think about it, your cars has a staggered wheel set up from the factory, it is designed to have staggered rims.

    Why are you changing the wheels? For look or performance? If it is for look then this *might* look OK, although I doubt it as the rears will look narrow and not full the guard. If you are doing this for performance then the factory rims will provide much better performance than this set up.

    I am all for changing the rims, I have 19's on my 355 and I really like them, it took a while to get the correct off set and the cost was not "cheap" but they fit correctly and the car has retained its factory handling characteristics. I changed my rims for the look but I would never have done it if it were to make my car handle worse than factory...
     
  10. ferrari 512 tr

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    james did u sell the stock 355 wheels
     
  11. James-NZ

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    Nope, I have a set of stock wheels also...
     
  12. MBFerrari

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    I have a set of 355 Challenge rims for sale if anyone is interested PM me. I was going to use them but sold the 348 and now have a 308 sooooo...
    MB
     
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  15. flyguyskt

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    okay what i mean to say is that they with make the track 10 mm wider...further outbound than stock...closer to the outside of the vehicle
     
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    #16 albert328gts, Dec 14, 2009
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  17. Kaivball

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    If anybody is selling used 355 wheels, please PM me...

    Kai
     
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    #18 flyguyskt, Dec 14, 2009
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    OEM SET UP for 348

    (F) 215/50-17 with 25.5" dia.
    (R) 255/45-17 with 26.1" dia. 8.5 inch rim

    my set up:
    (F)235/35zr19 with 25.5" dia
    (R)255/35zr19 with 26.0" dia 8.5 inch rim


    no i am NOT reducing my wheel width! a 348 spider has 8.5 inch wheels from factory! carrying a 255 tread width on the rear!
    I dont like the 355 wheels any better than the 348 wheels. i looked at 360 wheels but still would have been wrong offset and they are $$$$$ even used


    the differences from factory to what i will have.

    track on front and rear will be wider than OEM.
    front tires will be wider than OEM.

    Im not positive it wont handle like garbage but im fairly confident it will be just fine. ive been tuning my own cars suspension and wheels for years and have had some bad deal but always worked out in the end.

    AND whats the worst that can happen? I am out some cash. but if it works i will have great looking wheels and another solution for anyone that wants to save a few thousand on wheels and tires!

    unfortunately i wont be able to drive it for a few months!! well maybe if the snow melts i
    will take her for a spin.
     
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    Keep us lin the loop!
     
  20. Miltonian

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    "A 348 Spider has 8.5 inch wheels from the factory".

    According to what I'm seeing in factory data, a 348 Spider comes originally with 7.5 inch wheels in the front and 9.0 inch wheels in the rear.

    I haven't seen the ebay wheels in person, but from your description you say that the flange section of your wheels (the part with the bolt holes in it) is approximately 3/8" thick and has a conical taper for the new lug bolts. To me, that sounds like a recipe for disaster. I don't see how a wheel with that little meat on it is going to stand up to the rigors of acceleration, and more particularly, BRAKING! I'm sure it will be fine for holding the car off the ground, and for easy driving around town, but not for a super-high performance car.

    Do the wheels have any kind of certification? TUV?
     
  21. PeteyP

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    Maybe I'm nuts...
    But did I read somewhere you were planning on welding 2 seperate wheels together to make 1 rear wheel?


    Seriously... did I?
     
  22. James-NZ

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    Look, it's your car and your money so do as you wish, but I have been in this game for a while and what you are purposing to do is going to change the handling characteristics of the car, I am not sure where you got your data for rear rim width on factory 348 wheels but I strongly suggest you measure your factory rims.

    Then there is offset to consider...

    I wish you luck with this as I do like to see 348's on nicer looking rims than factory.

    I read this also.
     
  23. flyguyskt

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    #23 flyguyskt, Dec 14, 2009
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    the welding issue was what i can do if i want to make the rears wider. they do it all the time for drag race cars. companies specialize in it and if my 348 will accerelrate and have the torquing forces of a funny car i'll be happy!

    I did measure the factory rear on my 348 and they are the EXACT width of the new ones 8.5inches. yes the factory front wheels are narrower. i think 7.5 when i measured but it could be 7".

    i think what people are forgetting is this. it is a car...ferrari did not reinvent the wheel... the track will be wider than factory on both the front and the rear. i wont have clearance issues, ride height will remain same as OEM.


    every tuner wheel i have ever seen has maybe 3/8" from face to cone at lug then get thicker as it goes up the lug taper. to maybe 1/2"....look at the thickness of a supra TT wheel...500hp plus go through them...you guys really should look at some other custom wheels besides ferrari make. ferrari is the first one i have seen that has these LOOOONG lug bolts. most are not over 1.5 inches.

    i WILL defintiely let everyone know what happens to the handling. i will not be biased ...if it handles weird i will admit to it. I'm not proud just poor! so i wanted a cheap option for cooler wheels. and i think it will look bad azz when its done. i should have pics up by friday or sat i hope
     
  24. flyguyskt

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    just priced out a comparable looking HRE wheel...LMAO! 1600$ for 1 wheel! LOL they must be gold plated

    so for the cool price of 6400$ + 700 + tax @6% 420$ for tires mounted and balanced...$7,520$ WOW. no thanks... the tax is more than my wheels!

    thats like 15-20% of my cars value.
     
  25. James-NZ

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    If you think the uses here have no experence with other brands and modifying their cars then you are very naive..

    Do you know what the factory offset is comparing front to rear?
     

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