RAAF to retire its F111.

wrong, I'm anti-idiot

you keep your view and I'll keep mine, I know what I did and you will not re-write my history

 

I'm one too. I think that this thread is not worth a response from Taz...or anyone else.
Switches

 

Rob- I had a deal going on a BB for the Daytona, but never completed it. In theory I owned 365 GT4/BB 17659 for a space, but never took possession and never got to drive her. Have only driven one, a 4.4 liter, white like your 5 liter. I really enjoyed it because it felt like a Dino that had been lifting weights. The steering was way lighter than the Daytona's, and turn in was crisper. Power felt about the same. Kind of slow compared to your hot-rod 512, but fun nonetheless.

Would be nice to turn back history.

Taz
Terry Phillips

 

Terry,
The 512 had a fab induction/exhaust sound,couple of times I saw about 220ks in 4th gear then into 5th pulled like a 16 year old..
I had a set of Goodrich comp T/a r1s that were left over from my Mustang for semi wet tracks on it.had non of the horror stories you here about BBs.
my dream car has often been a Daytona group4 replicar race car.
I still thing pulling in the higher gears that the Daytona would be right behind a BB512.
Glad we have buried our dislikes, Rob B.

 

Rob- Affirmative, and we both need to remember what got us into that mess and prevent it happening again.

Ever had a yen for a Testarossa? They are giving them away now.

I agree on the Daytona competition. One of the meanest, broad shouldered, best looking sports racing cars ever built. Came within a hair's breadth of winning the Daytona 24 Hours.

Taz
Terry Phillips

 

Yeah, maybe I should buy another just for back-up. Killer deals out there right now.

 

Spasso- I have seen some beautiful 512TRs recently for really reasonable prices and normal TRs are a steal. Unfortunately for me, only a two car garage and no money.

Bloody 512s are nearly as quick as my 575M. Draw a lot more attention, though, which I am not sure is always a good deal.

Taz
Terry Phillips

 

TR,not my type of car,rather have a 550/575.

 

BB365,todays rally.
Understand were you are coming ie 9/11.
You know i've only watched the video of the WTC about twice.Their just scum the bombers.
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Rob- Looks very nice with 512BB 9" rear wheels. Put those on the back of my Daytona, too, but like a dummy, got no photos after fitting. Could not afford a Ferrari and a decent camera back then.

These photos are of it just after driving it back from Houston in 1978. Funky CB antenna would not fit into the trunk upright. Replaced the rear view mirror with a stock one, as well. Discoverd you could wax the wheels to shine them up. I was the only Ferrari mechanic in Clovis, NM in the 1970s, for sure.



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great to see.
Would have covered some fast road trips in those great old days before they removed the fun,nice to see a non red Daytona.
RB.

 

Rob- Eastern NM and Western Texas are flat and wide open with four lane roads between towns sometimes 50 miles apart. I blew off the belly pan on the Dino 246 GT at 135 mph between two of those towns. Never did find it.

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Terry Phillips

 

sounds like a bit of me.
About ten years ago I drove a hire car V8 Cadillac from Tuscon to Flagstaff/Grand Canyon.
Great freeway/highway.
On the return trip I hooked up with a pickup and for mile after mile we sat on 100mph,my wife thought we were doing 100kph.
If I can find the photos will upload,it was a front wheel drive car about 5 litres.

 

A late 512TR with the -M differential would do it for me. Best of the series.

 

Quite a few modern airplanes enter service, and still have some significant performance / reliability issues.

Tradition ?

The USAF has assigned in the past and present, several pure attack aircraft to fighter squadrons.

The F-89 Scorpion (a defensive interceptor), could never be confused with a fighter.

The A-1 Spad was designated for fighter squadrons, during the Vietnam War. Later in the war, they were designated as fighter commando squadrons.

The A-10 has always been designated for assignment in a fighter squadron - aside from the O/A-10, that was assigned to a few TASS units.

It was McNamara's baby.

McNamara came from Ford Auto. The same Ford V-8 engine, could be used in many different autos. McNamara wanted to build one airborne weapons system, for several different mission profiles and branches of the armed services - the F-111. In the early 60's and today, that is a tall order.

 

Ralph- John only posted here to get my goat. Rob and I are quits and could happily drink a beer together because any two individuals who think the 250 LM is one of, if not the, best compromise between looks and performance Ferrari ever built have to get along.

Not so sure with John, who seems to pretty much hate the USAF, F-111s, and most things American. Since I am three for three in those categories, I consider it a lost cause.

Taz
Terry Phillips

 

No we will be having a beer at some time in the future.
JM is cool,he is like me very proud of our country.
I wish we still had Ralph Laurens LM in Australia.

 

totally wrong, I don't hate anyone but my ex-wives, well one of them anyway

I thought most of the SAC/TAC aircraft were cool and still would give my lefty for a ride in an F-15.

I thought the pilot/navs of the F-111s at Mt Home were very brave going up in aircraft that had been so poorly maintained as they were during my time in the service when we visited the US for RIMPAC, Giant Voice and Red Flag exercises.

I must apologise for saying I did not respect the USAF as I am sure that most of the people in it are doing there best considering the training they would be getting compared to us in the RAAF, you cannot expect a crew chief who does 6 weeks familiarisation on an aircraft type to be able to comprehend the intricacies of a leaking hydraulic line and the cnsequences that WILL unfold due to his actions.

While here, I must commend the USAF military police for their leniancy in dealing with stupid Aussies who come back from Waikiki at 2am and wander across the flightline of A-6 intruders (I think ) to get to the MAC terminal to get a burger. My sergeant and I were drunk, lazy and stupid and yet the MPs upon realising we were Aussies , put us in the back of their pickup and took us to the terminal after they put their weapons back in the truck

Also, apologies for taunting the MPs at Mt Home AFB when doing the LDBO replenishment at 6am and stepping over the "imaginary" 100' fence being represented by the wire and rubber donuts on the edge of the flightline

We were told they will shoot us if we step over it so we thought we'd push the limits as kids do ..... the MPs use to just wag their fingers and pat the guns behind their heads

Terry, I'm sure if we met I'd be more than happy to have a beer and share some war stories plus talk of our Ferrari experiences but I am first and foremost an Aussie and we have a proud tradition of defending and backing our mates, Robby is definitely in that category so hence my wading in , but seeing as you both ahve buried the axe I am more than happy to do the same .... just who do we bury it in ??

Cheers

John

 

Rob, John- One difference between us is that you have never heard me make any anti-Australian comments because I have no feelings that way. One of my hobbies is WW-I aviation and I have several Australian friends who share that interest. We exchange photos, information, and drafts on a regular basis.

The same cannot be said about your comments, which have been blatantly anti-American, with enough personal stuff mixed in to make it interesting. Personal is OK.

My comments have been entirely personally aimed at you two, not Australians in general. I even felt kind of guilty jumping on Goober, who was pretty much incapable of defending himself, especially since he was just defending his mate from the mad Yank.

So how about keeping future comments on a personal level, and stop making yourselves look silly with all the acrimonious whining about Americans? It just makes you sound small. I know it is a difficult habit to break after practicing it for years, but how about trying it?

The offer of a beer is still good. You too, John.

Taz
Terry Phillips

 

To those of us that flew and maintained the F-111, these are pretty sad images. A friend of mine flew an F-111F on its last sortie at Cannon AFB, NM. It went straight to Santa Fe, NM after the sortie and demilitarizing process and was put on a pole with his name still on it.

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damn, even the pilot gets taken out

 

John- If you look at the bottom image, there he is. We had a hard time finding volunteers to sit in the aircraft on the poles.

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Terry Phillips

 

F111 was too cool.
I knew a girl in College who's Dad flew them in Nam.
He told me that early on F111's would sometimes "disappear". He said it turns out that when SAM's were launched at them pilots would go to Afterburner at low levels to escape and literally melt the wing leading edges off from air friction.

 

David- It turns out those very early aircraft were lost to slab binding failures. The slabs were the huge tail surfaces that worked like elevators and, differentially, like ailerons. The aircraft was nowhere near ready to go to war in 1967 when six were sent over for Harvest Reaper. Plus the aircrews did not have enough time in the aircraft when they were sent and tactical operations had not been fully developed. They went out and disappeared. Luckily a friend of mine, who was a pilot WSO, had it happen to him and his aircraft commander and they made a successful ejection. The problem then came to light. We tried never to use afterburners at night in bad guy territory, because it made you instantly visible.

Because of high air density, F-111s at low altitude were limited to about mach 1.2 to mach 1.5, depending on model. At that velocity there were tremendous "q" loads (2000+ psf) but no real issues with heating. The real heating problems were at high altitude and mach 2+ flight. Heating became a real problem in that regime and there was a total temperature warning light and clock with 300 seconds that started counting down. If you did not slow down before the 300 seconds were gone, the aircraft would literally melt its own airframe, just like your girlfriend's dad told you. The fastest I have gone, in an F-111D, was mach 2.55 and the total temperature light and clock did come on.

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Terry Phillips

 

Terry, yuve got to write a book about theses things. I'll illustrate it and we will make millions.
Bob