Fia looking for ideas to improve the show

Be careful what you wish for,as it may just come true... Next thing you know we'll have deisel turbos dominating the sport. As in the past, one team will make more of the new rules than the others and the rest of the field will have to play catch up

 

-Sex Scandals
-Espionage
-Bans
-Outrageous Fines

.... Oh, that's right

 

That depends on the perspective. From our as viewers, yes, I agree. From the drivers perspective it was way more dangerous back then and paid a lot less money.

I would agree that back to Can-Am rules or something like the turbo era would be fun for us specatators. However those were dangerous and deadly times.

F1 is a balance act between Speed, Show and Safety. You can't sacrifice one for the other. Although currently the show element needs a boost.

Although I've never been to it, I would think it'd be hard to make the Nordschleife safe enough (not that total safety is my goal to begin with). It would be certainly insanely expensive as it is so long.

 

I dont know that the turbo era was any more dangerous than 1994... or for that matter current NASCAR....

I just think that the point of F-1 is Completely lost... at least when I was a kid, it was still a sport that sometimes put on a good show.... today its about a show that sometimes is a sport....

as for the tracks they could all afford it, if it was not for greedy FOCA, FIA and Bernie... they have strangled the sport, mortgaged it off, and now its completely stuck.

 

I was agreeing with you that F1 was better in the past. But this defeatist post of yours I can't subscribe too.

You cant turn back the wheels of time. All we can do is live and deal with what we have. Take it or leave it.

 

Saturday: qualifying returns to one hour - fastest lap gets pole.
Race day: unknown fuel loads. rebuilt chassis if needed. no two or three race requirments on chassis. This is a sprint, not a marathon.
Podium: the three best drivers with the most talented engineers.

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Welcome to the show...

 

Yes you can. Your attitude is defectist.

All somebody with balls needs to do is stand up and say motorracing is first and foremost a sport and then run it as a sport. If people want to get involved with F1 to make money, then this is not the sport for you.

You make sponsorship money from association with the sport and ALL teams should complete the season with NO profits, ie. all funds should go into racing that season. Time to stop the unnecessary parties, unnecessary grid girls, etc. all fluff that is the REAL cause of F1 becoming so expensive. It's not the cars, or development of said cars, it is the overly fancy trucks and factories, etc. ALL fluff, encouraged by the fnckwit Bernie.

The spectator would NOT notice any difference, other than the focus was once again back on to the track and the racing ... not who can give the best BJ party in the corporate stand, etc.
Pete

 

I´d like that too but I´m not sure if any team could afford a Formula 1 like that. How could we get this and reduce costs at the same time.

 

Again the current rediculous costs are NOT in the car development, its in the extra stuff like parties, overly fancy trucks, overly fancy media caravans/buses, etc. that have come about because entertaining the corporate sponsors has got out of control and become the focus of each and every team INSTEAD of the racing.

This has happened because the team principles are focusing on making a profit instead of winning races. Infact they are only interested in actually winning because it will result in a larger profit as more money will flow to the team via Bernie or new sponsors.

Thanks Bernie, a very sad state of affairs.
Pete

 

Got any data to back that up?

I'd say you're making this up. Total BS.

The real costs are in paying for 300+ people building a car with the complexity of a space ship. In the case of Ferrari that number is more like 600 people.

The 50 or so PR folks and their tents to schmooze the VIPs are drop in the bucket. Particularly since those people are often only hired on location/subcontracted.

 

In fact publicity and entertainment expenses are excluded from the spending cap so those costs don't enter into the equation.

 

That provision must have been put in by Max. Nazi hookers aren't cheap you know...

 

A quote from Dicky Branson :

Sir Richard Branson said that: “Our first year in F1 [with Brawn GP this year] was tremendous for the Virgin brand, so why not go in again with a new team from scratch? If you look at the history of Virgin we’ve loved supporting technical breakthroughs, great engineers, and there’s something like 120 engineers working away on this project.”

Branson said that Virgin Racing will have one of the smallest budgets with the plan being to spend less than $60m.

He should know.

 

The fact is that these expenses are seen as revenue generating by the teams. It seems that while they are willing to put dollar limits on the sporting aspect of F1 commercial interests remain sacrosanct.

 

Still that's about $ 52m more than that other team. You know "Toasters F1"...

 

Bloody hell John whats with that avatar, you not getting into that Maxxx lark are you ..

 

Cannonball

 

Toasters F1.. LOL..

 

Captain Chaos fron the Cannonball Run movies. But I can see Max dressing up like that for one of his spank sessions...

 

I watched the cannonball run last night on TV ..maddness out running cops all good stuff though.

 

Nice one .

 

He got the bargain of the century last year. I hope he doesn't expect that sort of deal again.

 

Team slogan: "Virgin Racing. We're tighter than the rest."

I'd be amazed if he could pull that off. Is he claiming he can do everything for that amount or is he excluding all the PR?

 

Yes as tight as cramp..

Here is a bit more not sure on the PR.

The private equity arm of the Lloyds Banking Group plc has announced that it will be taking a shareholding in the team. This is a slightly controversial move as the British government owns a 43.4% shareholding in the bank and thus the deal could be seen to be involving public money. The reality is that the Virgin Racing stake is a simple investment which the bankers believe will produce a profit. The investment is believed to be in the region of $15m.

 

Now THAT is interesting.
If public money is involved we might just get some financial disclosure and a peek under Bernie's dress