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  1. spider348

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    #1 spider348, Dec 17, 2009
    Well I am in the midst of removing my engine cradle from my ’97 355 to do a major service. I have found the 355 to be more complex and less user friendly than my 348 was to do the same tasks. The easy stuff is done. I am hoping to get some tips and help regarding the hard tasks ahead.
    1. Power Steering Lines. Look tough to access.
    2. Fuel Lines. What and where do I disconnect?
    3. Coolant Hoses. From the very helpful tips regarding installation of the Coolant Hoses I think I will loosen and remove what I can. When the assembly drops the remaining hoses will disconnect at that time. Good idea?
    4. A/C disconnect at the pump housing. Appears simple.
    Downloaded a wonderful tutorial from the site that has been invaluable. Just looking for those golden suggestions that save immense time, broken knuckles and expense!
    Thanks!
     
  2. AceMaster

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    #2 AceMaster, Dec 17, 2009
    Athough I can't offer technical assistance, I can offer moral support and encouragement - good luck with the job and keep us posted with pics and descriptions of each stage!!!
     
  3. UConn Husky

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    #3 UConn Husky, Dec 17, 2009
    Well, you seem to know what you're doing so all I can do is confirm...yes, there are some tricky points.

    Power steering - pain in the ass! Too close to firewall, I couldn't get a wrench on there to loosen the connection (bad angle). I ended up disconnecting the OTHER end at the pump and snaking the hose through. I was going to just cut the @#$! thing until I checked the replacement cost.

    Fuel supply - on my 5.2 I disconnected at the single fuel filter

    Coolant - yup, loosen as best you can, free any stuck hoses with a screwdriver and take them off as you take the engine out.

    A/C - you got it, pretty straightforward. Just make sure it's evacuated ;)
     
  4. marioz

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    #5 EMI-SC, Dec 17, 2009

    The power steering isnt too bad to get to, just a pain because they are usally very tight. We use open end wrench that has a slight bend to it to make it a little smoother. Good luck
     
  6. Llenroc

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    #6 Llenroc, Dec 17, 2009
    The only thing I found hidden on my engine out was a little ground wire (black) attached the oil tank, very hard to see. My car is a challenge version which has a different tank than yours but you should check anyway. I lower the cradle down a few inches at a time and look around to see how things are lining up or unlining up :D anyway that is how I found the wire, on the 3rd or 4th lowering stage.
     
  7. UConn Husky

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    #7 UConn Husky, Dec 17, 2009
    yup I tried everything on that PS line, 2 wrenches just as shown but she wouldn't budge! Even after the engine was out it took a ton of torque to get that thing loosened, tightened by Godzilla apparently.

    +1 on that small black ground wire under the oil tank...and don't forget to re-connect it on install ;)
     
  8. spider348

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    #8 spider348, Dec 18, 2009
    Thanks guys. AC is done, power steering connections tonight, with some success I hope! Thanks for the tip on the oil tank connection, I would have missed that.
    The only fuel connection is at the filter top? Looked like a 2nd line was required, cannot tell where it originates, down at the fuel tank base?. Mine is a US 5.2 as well. Maybe I am mistaken. No sense creating work!
    Disconnect the main ECU connections and pass through the firewall.
    Drop the assembly. Then the real work begins!
     
  9. spider348

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    #10 jmiff348, Dec 21, 2009
    Well done!
     
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    #11 MarkJ, Dec 21, 2009
    Touch down!
     
  12. AceMaster

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    #12 AceMaster, Dec 21, 2009
    Go for two!! :) :)
     
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    #13 Silky Smoove, Dec 23, 2009
    WOW, I'll bet that took the better part of an hour to do....maybe more.
     
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    #14 ferrari 512 tr, Dec 23, 2009
    +1
    mike yr a top guy
    one in a billion
     
  15. wingfeather

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    #15 wingfeather, Dec 23, 2009
    Power steering? We don't need no power steering! Delete that thang ;)
     
  16. saw1998

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    Great job! :) Are you using a scissor-type lift?

    I wonder if a box wrench plus a crow-foot wrench to supply torque would be good to loosen the PS line?
     
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    #17 MarkJ, Dec 24, 2009
    Likewise, I was wondering if brakeline wrenches would work. Then, slip a pipe over the end of each wrench and you should have sufficient torque and leverage to break it loose.
     
  18. AceMaster

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    #18 AceMaster, Dec 25, 2009
    Good idea
     
  19. spider348

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    #19 spider348, Dec 27, 2009
    I am using a BendPak scissor lift. I don't have sufficient headroom in my garage for a standard 2 post lift. Great tool!
     
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    #20 tiara4300, Dec 28, 2009
    Update us with pics of the work as you go along. I'm just about ready to get started on mine , any tips you come across would be great,
     
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    #21 enzomania, Mar 15, 2010
    Any updates or pictures on this thread?
     

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