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  1. Ligu

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    Do you know the s/n of this gold 208 GT4 ?

    BR

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    Unfortunately not. Otherwise I would have included this information. Very sorry.

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    That looks like a 308 engine, not a 208 ...
    And in fact there are no lower intakes!
    I'm pretty sure that is a 308
     
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    Who converted the 208 GT4? It was not Ferrari was it?
     
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    I'm sorry Rui but it could be a 208 GTS... Looking at the engine you can never tell because it is a normal aspirated 208!! 155 bhp... 1980 to 1981.
    By the paint scheme can be... but looking at the exhaust pipe and front lights and smaller Webers (34 DCNF instead of 40...) at least to my eyes they look smaller..., my guess goes to a 208, indeed...

    After these came the KKK turbo cars and then the IHI Turbo cars...

    All the best.
     
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    Obviously, no Turbo no NACA ducts...
     
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    Great thread!
     
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    Thanks everybody for the useful information!
    I rummaged through my Ferrari material and found out what made me think (wrongly) that the 208s were sold only in Italy.
    This is taken from the GTB-GTS brochure N. 443/88.
    The first small line reads:"The GTB turbo and GTS turbo models are only for the Italian Market".
    Seems that I wasn't the only one to be wrong!!!

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    Have any 208 GT4s changed hands recently? How are they valued against the 308? MOre rare but a little slower for virtually the same car?
    thanks
     
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    You are absolutely right. I completely forgot about the non-turbo models!!!
     
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    "I rummaged through my Ferrari material and found out what made me think (wrongly) that the 208s were sold only in Italy.
    This is taken from the GTB-GTS brochure N. 443/88.
    The first small line reads:"The GTB turbo and GTS turbo models are only for the Italian Market".
    Seems that I wasn't the only one to be wrong!!!"

    Image copyright by Ferrari S.p.A.[/QUOTE]

    Let me put things this way.
    The 1991 cc engines were indeed made for the Italian market.
    But at the same time, around 88, Portugal changed its ways of charging taxes regarding automobiles. They did it the Italian way. So Ferrari exported the 2L engine cars to Portugal.
    Obviously, this last generation 208s were beeing produced from 86... They only entered the Portuguese market in 88.
    The 208 outnumbered the 328 by far...
    They are red over tan or black interior mainly.
    I've some experince driving both. To me the 208, feels like it should, wich is, fast and Ferrari.
    Its engine is ready and available. Only a small turbo lag but then everything shows up like it should.
    Obviously the 3200 cc is more "torquy" feels stronger right from the begining. But in the end the difference is not that big.
    Obviously the Turbo engine needs more attention regarding maintenance. There are real stories of extra-boosted 208s.
    The reason is the unobtainum waste-gate valve. Most people don't drive the Ferraris often. These engines don't forgive that!!
    The metal membrane "glues" over time and you get extra power. It seems you have a 5L engine with 2 turbos!!!
    Within a few kilometers you have a piston or two, "smilling" out of the block!! Or damaged seriously...
    The same is valid for the F40 or 288 GTO.

    Let me tell you, also, that at the same time Maserati was producing the biturbos range. And as a daily driver of this cars from the 2L 24v engine till the 3.2L 32v Shamal engine, I can tell that Maserati led the way... very small turbo lag and better turbo management.
    The first 208 with the KKK turbo were very difficult to drive and live with. The IHI water cooled were far more reliable and easy to drive.
    For the Portuguese market the 208 GTB and GTS came with the Abs fitted and rear aileron colour coded or not.
    The 308/328 is the "perfect" small berlinetta that most of us in the "fourties", enjoy and first linked to the Ferrari shape and design. They are small, cute, noisy and very beautiful. So the 208 deserves the same status.

    Regards,

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    Thank you for the valuable informations!

    I started this thread to let the 208 be known by those who had no idea that such a Ferrari line existed, to give first-hand informations to the people who are curious about these cars and, obviously, to learn something new myself.
    All the response by FerrariChatters makes me feel that I have exceeded my best expectations.

    Thank you everybody for your contribution!
     
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