Can I get some feedback of Ferrari of Long Island?

absoulutey i agree free enterprise. This is an example of one man taking out his competition by manipulating the legal system with his money donations and contributions. Whatever happened to just trying to beat the competition by giving better service and pricing.

 

I believe no one knows the specifics of this besides you and Rich, and it is something that should be discussed among individuals not in a public forum.

 

actually you seem to be the only one who doesnt know about this, its was all over the news and all over this forum. So please reserve your comments untill you no the whole story. let your friend speak for himself.

 

Please listen to your own advice and stop bad mouthing the competition. #1 rule of sales is: Don't knock the competition. If you work for Universal, great, speak about their attributes not what you think are negative things about your competitors and the people who work there. You said you worked at FOLI and now you don't. Rule #2: Don't speak badly of past employers.

I don't have any affiliation with these dealerships and hope they all can be successful, as competition is beneficial to the consumer.

 

yea baby, bring it on, i love it. #1 isnt the subject of this post "can i get some feedback of ferrari of long island" Im trying to help and protect the people who are looking to buy new or preowned ferrari's and whats better then to hear the advise from someone who has worked for this dealer and its competition. The man who pays over list price for all his cars and does things the way the dealer tells him to is not really the guy to listen to because he is going to get very special treatment. #2 you have no idea of the severity of the situation. i do not work for either dealer anymore so i dont have any biased opinons of either one except for the underhanded lies, scams, bribes and corruption then went on at FOLI. #3 based on your current 308 that you have your not the type of guy who will be walking into either one of these dealers as a potential buyer anytime soon, in fact if i were you i would make friends with the mechanics at universal real soon because foli will bend you over that fender and stick to you real good for fixing that slush box. lol

 

oh and #3 when my past employer calls my current employer a year later and bad mouths me not only am i gonna dish it right back at them i will make sure that if i can deter just one person from not spending there money there then i have done my mitzvah for the day.

 

Sales lesson # 3 Never judge a book by its cover. I can continue to give you sales advice, but I'm convinced it won't help you.

 

i didnt ask you for any sales advise, im at the top of my profession and know exactly what im doing. this is why i have a following of people who respect my honesty and the knowledge i have of both the business and the cars. I hope you do realize that this is nothing personal towards you or anyone else on this forum, just good old fashion debating. i also dont doubt for one minute that this is all getting back to its intended source. There are plenty of people on here that will speak of the good experiences and ones who will talk about the bad ones. im here to give my opinion from the other side of the sales desk and if you notice most of the good experiences were the ones that took place when i was there. Ask the people who prior to my tenure there left $1000's of dollars of deposits and waited on so called "lists" for there F430's and never got either one back in return. Ask the people who were forced to finance there cars when they wanted to pay cash, ask the people who were forced to sign illegal first right of refusal documents or talk about how ferrari dealer principals got together and decided to control the market. How would you feel if you were one of the people i had to tell that your money was no good here at foli and to get into the so called club you had to first buy a preowned. it was all bull****, no list, no club just GREED.

 

No problem Mike, but when you make personal insults I find it extremely hard to believe you’re at the "top of your game". I'm sure I'm not the only one here who would like to know at what store you are using all your "professionalism" and "top of game" talent.

All the things you are speaking of have been discussed on this site since its inception and at great length, so don't make yourself out to be the "beacon of enlightenment" regarding dealerships and how they operate.

 

Do those "malarkey" lists still exist in this economic environment. What would possess people to still be that dumb.

 

i dont know why anyone ever believed that and did anyone ask to see the list and where they were placed on it

 

I doubt it ...... they didn't want to dare insult the 'regal' dealer, lol.

 

as a native long islander, i can tell you that ALL the local exotic car dealers have attitudes. enough of their clientele are into the cars only as status symbols and actually prefer to pay over list as just another bragging point. all the other customers, beware.

 

well i was smart enough to get out of exotics during this time of turmoil and into luxury car sales. Where exactly is irrelevant, unlike other people i dont feel it necessary to show off my cars, my house and where it will all be so that complete idoits can come and drewel all over them. sounds like a great way to get yourself killed or one of your stallions stolen. I mean come on in this economy where people are struggling to put food on the table, others are showing the world there fortunes. Once again just replying to the post that asked for feedback on FOLI. Perhaps im the only one with the balls to come clean with it all. As far as my insults to these people, they deserve every bit of it and the best is yet to come. you can believe what you like thats your opinion.

 

well put, and dont forget that same clientele are the ones who dont and cant even drive the car the way it should be driven. that might explain why F1 was the prefered trans.

 

steve they know you and how many cars you do buy, they will bend over backwards for you like i will and have for you as well. What about the people they dont know and are legitmate buyers and dont get the time of day by anyone there. Not fair and what they have done to UAS is over the top.

 

some talk about there experiences from a few years ago and others talk about there current experiences at Foli. Lets not forget economics 101 supply and demand. in the past they didnt need to be nice nor did they need the extra business. Today is a different story, a friend and customer of mine called me last month and said that after years of trying to get a 430 and no one ever recieving any follow up calls is now all of a sudden being called on regular basis to come in and purchase one. Today all dealers need to kiss ass to get a customer in the door so im sure some of the more recent experiences will be quite different from when i was there. my experiences are nothing but the plain truth like it or not, those who do not like,(Dwhite) dont worry im sure i will be followed home tonight or letters from lawyers will be arriving at my house anyday. Lawsuits, threats and intimadation is somthing Mr $tuart is very good at.

 

Recently I keep thinking about selling all the "toys" and buying and keeping just 1 car. Glad I saw this thread. Thanks. Now I know where I wont be going.

 

I was speaking of you insulting me and my 308.

Who do you think Ferraris market is?

Mike, I don't want to know where you live or if you have any cars. I was curious to know where you worked with your level of experience and thought others may want to know. I'm sure you are a salesperson who will gladly sell a vehicle for over sticker when the market demands, just like any other salesperson. What feedback were you giving when you worked there?

 

Ok listen you brought that comment on yourself. I actually like the 308 it reminds me of thick mustaches and hawaiin shirts. Seriously though, enough, the people who needed to hear this did. "a lie would have no sense unless the truth were felt to be dangerous"

 

boxsterboy i'm not sure what point youre trying to make but I'd hate to see this thread take a bad turn. If you have an issue please use the pm system to resolve it.

 

"#3 based on your current 308 that you have your not the type of guy who will be walking into either one of these dealers as a potential buyer anytime soon, in fact if i were you i would make friends with the mechanics at universal real soon because foli will bend you over that fender and stick to you real good for fixing that slush box. lol"


Mike, you just never learn. Above is your snide comment, which I refered as being an insult. Stop crying and move on, remember you are at "The Top of Your Game". Your posts are basically in one thread, so now that you have stated all the bad things you believe about a dealer, move on with your life. Maybe one day you will have something positive to contribute to this site.

Still would love to know what luxury store you are at.

 

+1

boxsterboy, I think we all can appreciate not having been recognized a few times in our lives for the things we deserved credit for. And we can all see what you are trying to say and where you are coming from, while some facts have come to light from your perspective on this and other threads, most of us have also based our opinions through hear say and conjecture. We can all see that you want Rich to recognize your effort publicly on this forum, but have you stopped to think about whether insisting on this public apology may obliterate any chance of ending on good terms with Rich? I don't know what the status of your business relationship is with him, although I can pretty much guess based on all that has been going on here. I'm sure we can all understand your frustration with the misrepresentation of opinions about FoLI and all the other parties mentioned in the thread but remember many of the comments here are opinions and not facts. For example you may think Rich is being less than forthcoming by not acquiesing to your request for recognition, while I think he should be canonized as San Ferrari for all the joy he has brought to others who will never be fortunate enough to even see a Ferrari.

If I were in your shoes I'd take a moment to breathe and look back on the thread, maybe a change in direction and tone can go a long way in ensuring your point is received well instead of being viewed as a bashing on someone most of the thread readers (including myself) believe to be an example to follow. I'm not telling you what to do ok? and it's not advice either...again, it's just my -opinion-.

Hope this thread re-directs in the path in which it embarked on.

 

Hello...fyi, for reasons unbenknowsnt to me, i am the man largely in question by boxster boy (mike bianco). I received an email from a customer of mine this morning bringing my attention Mike's personal attacks on myself, and my family.

I largely attempt to remain quite on f-chat, I feel when a post of this magnitude is brought to my attention I feel the need to respond professionally, and honestly. Although the attacks are largely personal, I will refrain from answering back in this fashion, as I feel that would do more to damage my points than bulster them. Two wrongs do not make a right, and I will not stoop to this level.

1. The claims that Mike makes in regards to all professional matters stemming from this store are complete and utter lies.

2. I cant, and wont, apologize for who I am and where I come from. All I can do is work hard each and everyday. Hopefully over the long haul, this strategy earns the respect of most.

2. The original thread stems from a conversation I had with a potential customer. Yes, it is true that I reached out to apologize after I had read this post. However, I did not respond publically and the only person that can speak of the sincerity of my words is the person who felt slighted in the first place. Unfortunately, I am not perfect and when I replayed our original conversation I felt that he brought up some valid points that I could learn from, I took the opportunity to try and grow from it.

1. Mike is an x-employee. It has been two years since he last worked here. Despite what Mike would like to believe or not, the reasons for him not working here have nothing to do with any personal agenda's. This was simply a decision based on what we felt to be the best reprsentation of our brands to our customers, as well as performance, general conduct and work ethic. Letting go of an employee is never a fun, or easy experience. However, sometimes it is necessary. In the past two years since Mike's departure, I have received an alarming trend of threatening phone calls from mike, emails threatening to "break my legs", and personal attacks on myself and family (including my sister, really??). When it comes to this young man, the one consistant in his erratic and unstable behavior is his complete innability to look in the mirror and recognize reality. As tempting as it is to respond to things like this, it just isnt prudent as I first consider the source, and then move on. The term "less is more" is the phrase that first comes to mind.

Unfortunately in this business (i imagine its the same in all of your professions as well), it is very hard to please everyone. Fortunately we have far far more happy and loyal customers than we do angry ones. We have earned this loyalty and trust by constantly demonstrating them precise opposite of the values Mike claims. The best that we can do is approach each day with a smile and doing our best job to earn a living while best and most honestly serving our customers and community. Should someone feel the need to attack in this sort of manner is dissapointing, but unfortunately out of our control.

I wish you all nothing but the best of health and wishes in the year to come....oh, and...J-E-T-S

 

Thank you for your words i do appreciate them and i understand where your coming from and how my words may look to everyone else on here, but as i said last nite i have no animosity towards anyone on here or even Foli for that matter, i simply wanted people to know, especially the one's who are familiar with the story of the ongoing lawsuit (Foli vs. UAS) that rich was my client to begin with. That was never mentioned in the press for obvious reasons. Im not looking for credit or to be recognized, my father hugged me enough as a kid. What i wanted was to shed some light on that story. What prompted me was the negativity on that particular thread about UAS which was closed due to the direction that was going. Remember innocent till proven guilty. Its the Irony of it all that got to me, and many of you might not understand it fully but lke i said last nite those who needed to hear it did and many people will think twice about walking into Foli or at least will hold on to their wallets a bit tighter.