Maserati Khamsin

Hi Marc
What a great model!


I try to collect a model of the cars I have owned but I have never been a huge fan of "peer at" scale 1:43.

I'll put my hand up as a show of interest in a large scale Khamsin Coupe in RHD I can supply paint numbers and leather.

I will get some pictures of the other brown Khamsin when the the trim is finished.

Regards
Graeme

 

Hi Graeme:

Will try to get in touch with the model maker this coming weeks see what he has to say: he should have a an idea of what a small run would cost per unit.

best regards,

Marc

 

Hello Marc,

Three Khamsins from my “archive”.

The first is well-known, but are the other identified?

1. The first is the Khamsin has figured many times here, e.g. in rain at Karlavägen in Stockholm. Here it is at Tylösand just outside Halmstad. The photo is from the early 90’s when I tested it and decided that I wanted a Khamsin. Compared to the article in Automobil the front bumper has now also been changed. The owner (in the background) made a batch in glass-fibre, moulded from original bumpers. In the background one can see the peninsula where Båstad is located, and this year’s international Maserati meeting. I think Denmark is too far away to be seen.

2. The photo of the second car is from around the millennium shift. I think it is from a car dealer in Switzerland. I remember that I did not consider this car too seriously for two reason. Firstly, the heavy import taxes (around 30% I think, on top of the then very strong Swiss Franc). Secondly, I had owned red cars with black interior before and wanted something else.
Doesn’t the tyres look too small on this and previous car? I think correct tyre size makes much for the good looks of the Khamsin.

3. The third car is also from a dealer in Switzerland. I liked the colour and the blue interior, and the price was reasonable (even in Swiss Franc, around 12000 EUR if I remember correctly) but to this should be added the taxes around 30%, the parts for conversion to European exterior (Campana offered the parts for about the same price as the car) and on top of this that all work. So in the end I lost interest.

4. Finally I got almost desperate since it was so impossible to find any Khamsin at all on the net that I seriously considered to drive down to Germany and test the fine car in next two photos in spite I preferred other colours. But then family matters interferred and stopped it.

5. So finally I found AM 120 076 in a colour combination I liked. But it took 10 years, and many times I considered skipping the idea of a Khamsin and select another car.

Greetings

Ulf
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Hi Ulf:

Thanks for all the photos and I must say I am glad you did not join the masses who bought predictable cars from Stuttgart or Maranello but had the patience to buy something special!

I am not at my computer but I think the Khamsin shown in the rain in Karlavagen (big avenue in Stockholm) was a Euro car whereas the one shown in the Automobil (Swedish magazine) and in your photos is a US car: it has the big rectangular side lights.

Also I think it is a small world: unless I have had too much wine with my dinner (I am in Bourgogne after all) the light blue car you show in two of your photos with the droopy outside mirror is none other than the car John Berg is restoring right now in Denmark: these are typical photos by Oldtimer Garage in Switzerland where he bought it, right John?

That mirror reminds me of the one on the drivers door of my car: I called it politically correct because when the -very Italian- speedometer went above 140mph the wind would push it back...as though it was ashamed!

The red car I am not sure but will try to read the crystal ball in front of my files tomorrow!

best regards,

Marc

 

This is fun – Ulf have pictures of my car before I picked it up in Switzerland, year 1999

Car # 3.

I have attached some pictures of my car from around 2000 when I moved the car on trailer. Note that in the side window left side is a small bracket for a mobile antenna – also the black ugly side mirrors in black!
Another picture from my garage shows this bracket for the antenna!

I believe the pictures Ulf have saved is from the advertising of the car in 1999 – am I correct Ulf?

Cheers John
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Thats correct - my car from Oldtimer garage in Bern / CH

 

Marc and John,

Marc you are right, I mixed the car at Karlavägen up with that outside Hotél Anglais.
The first car is still in Stockholm, in Brännkyrkagata at Södermalm.
The car in Tylösand (the same as outside Anglais) I think is still in Germany.

In those times when the web and search machines were not so well-developed one got ordinary photos by mail from the dealers.
I have perhaps five more of each car

Greetings

Ulf

 

Hello Ulf and John:

Yes 1134 is the US Khamsin shown in the Automobil article while 398 is the car still in Stockholm.

The red car shown a few posts up by Ulf could possibly be 390 which is at Auto Salon Singen or 040 also in Germany. Do you have interior photos of the red car Ulf?
Needless to say would love to see the photos of the other cars.

Below are photos of 1044, 28500 miles zero known history, on which I had nothing previously just bought January 2010 from Gullwing Motor Cars, Astoria, New York by Carmine S. from the New York City area who intends to restore it, obviously it has been in storage for some time and will need a bit of waking up: buona fortuna!

best regards,

Marc
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Hello John and Graeme...

Thank you both for the detailed pictures of the Khamsin work you are both doing...
This kind of info is extremely helpful, and I have enjoyed reading the details and examining
the pictures...

Now, for a question... A while ago I posted an inquiry regarding the steering hardner and belt at the rear of the car... Do either of you have any detailed pictures of these items?
Perhaps you even have an idea of the belt size used on the hardner?

Thanks...

Mike D.

 

Marc and John,

It appears that pdf-pictures in my previous contribution were just attached but did not show up, so therefore I post some of them again. I realised that the displaying of the picture did not have to do with the file type as such, but just with the ending of its name. By adding .jpg I hope it will work better

John: I have some three further Polaroid photos from the interior and the engine bay of your car that I got from Oldtimer garage. I think it is better you have my photos, so if you mail me your post address (you have my email address) I will send them to you.

Marc: Regarding the photo of myself driving my car I thought it was funny when I realised that it was taken about an hour later that the picture before Grand Hotel and the archipelago boat on this AHK-tour "I Mälardrottningens famn. The location is at Värmdö not far from Skurubron, i.e. the bridge between Nacka and Värmdö.

Regarding the two red cars they are not that in Singen, since this has a grey probably non-original interior, see photo. I have a lot of picture of this. Judging from the sidelights it appears to be a rebuilt US model. I was also a bit interested in this car and planned to pass Singen when I drove down to look at the car I bought in St Ingbert, but I did not have time.

Furthermore, I think the first red car was also sold in Switzerland.
I show two further photo of it. According to printed text on the reverse the photos were developed 99.04.15. It appears to have been repainted.
I have further 5 photos of it but to not waste space with repetitions here I send them to you via Kamsin registry adress. There is also a lot of printed figures on the back of the photos of John's car but I cannot identify any of them as date. I believes these photos, especially the Polaroids, are older.

Regarding the other read car (with the large Maserati emblem in the background) I have found more from my email correspondence. This car was advertised by Sporting Cars, Matthias Knödler, St. Johann 15a, Erlangen. The date of my email is July 23 2000. It was advertised as a 1975 model.

Greetings

Ulf
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Hello,
the photos from Erlangen show AM120040.
Various outer parts have been changeded over the years: steering wheel, wipers and mirrors. The additional lamps have been taken away.
The car is still offered for sale by various dealers in Hamburg/Germany.

Best regards
Markus

 

Hi Mike,

You have two options to get a belt – I have one you can have for free (have two spare in my garage) just tell me where to send it.

Or you can get one from MIE at the following link at USD 16 + Shipping and taxes

http://www.maseratinet.com//pc-12042-444-belt-metric-polyflex.aspx

I have attached a few pictures from my belt in workshop – just let me know!

Send a mail on - [email protected]

Kind regards
John
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Ulf: thanks for the photos: much appreciated!

I still can not believe the owners of my ex car spending two days in Stockholm and stumbling upon your car: incredible.

The Singen auto salon has had two red khamsins: some time ago the one you show with the grey was a US car yes recognizable by the big rectangular sidelights, I am not sure of its chassis number but now or at least in August when I stopped by they have AM120390 (photos below).

I think the photo of the red car which you posted vertically in the nice showroom was taken at Oldtimer garage in Toffen Switzerland, not certain but it looks like their showrooom.

I look forward to the photos you are sending: again thank you!

Markus: good to see a post from you again, one every six months maybe you should visit more often Ok 040 your ex car, thanks for the info.

One last thing John asked me today what the actual specifications of the Euro differential ratio is, does anybody have the actual numbers? If you do please post them or PM me or John.

Ok dinner time!

Marc
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Marc,

To me the car in your photo in Singen appears to be the same as the car I happened to post vertically; the same interior, the same small tyres, etc.
Perhaps I don't remember correctly, and my pictures also were from Singen ten years ago.

Ulf

 

Hello again Marc,

I took a deeper look in my computer and found that I had more information about the Singen Khamsin with grey interor.
The text, however, has rather low resulution.
I cannot read it but perhaps you can interpret it

Ulf
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Does anyone have access to the High Pressure Hose (#73338) that runs from the Hyd. pump to the pressure regulator? I've tried MIE and they have to order it from Italy (aka long time). Stuart tried to get one fabricated but couldn't source one of the connectors. As soon as my hose returns from MIE I'm going to try to have one fabricated here in Atlanta but might run into the same issues Stuart did so I'm looking for a replacement hose to hedge my bet.

Thx,
Rick . . . .

 

Hello Ulf:

Ok, the wood steering wheel red car is indeed AM120390 and the red car US version with grey interior and red and silver bumpers is AM120US1238 which was at Singen some years ago then bought at auction by German dealer Mario Bernardi then sold by< him to a client whom I met at the Oldtimer GP at the Nurburgring in August.

Tack sa mycket!

best regards,

Marc

 

The wood-rimmed steering wheel looks fantastic in that car, much more in the character than the leather one. *Note to self*

 

Hi Rick,

I don't know if this will help but it's worth a try. When I replaced all the hoses on my Bora I went with SS braided ones with the Teflon liners. This was way back in 1990. The similar hose to the one you're talking about on the Bora kept failing and I got tired of that. I ended up using off then shelf parts from an aircraft hose fabricator located near an airport. It's still on the car today. I don't know how different the one on the Khamsin is but I went right from the pump to that pipe on frame with a 45 degree swivel adapter on it to relieve stress.

#40 here: http://www.eurospares.co.uk/userImages/117/Large/117_023.gif

#11 here: http://www.eurospares.co.uk/userImages/127/Large/127_023.gif

No special fabrication was involved. They had everything on hand. Good luck.

Bob S.

 

Hi Rick

The hoses provided the end fittings are ok can be rebuilt.
The Aviation industry do this all the time. They cut the swage off and re hose ( for the want of a better word) using the original ends. Yes the US aviation industry use imperial measurement, but I think you will find so are the Maserati ones
The key to remember is the hose material. LHM is a green version of a MIL spec fluid, MIL-5606 or Shell 4 it is mineral based fluid. This is a common fluid in light aircraft. so Track down a Aircraft maintenance facility that does this. You can generally find this info from the National Airworthiness Authority in the country you live, from their their web site.
They can pressure test it as well.

Cheers
Graeme

 

I agree

Ulf

 

Ulf, Jack: Yes AM120004 the second protoype and, importantly, the first one that was meant to be seen by the public, had a wood steering wheel when built.

Rick, Bob, Graeme: yes the aircraft industry can be useful and Graeme works in that trade so he knows what he is talking about, his advice is all good however don't take it one stage further by misguidedly trying try to use aircraft hydraulics as there have been costly disasters on several Khamsins like that. Stick to LHM fluid: it is made for the car, cheap and easy to find. Right Graeme?

best regards,

Marc

 

Hello again,

Generally I think slippery wood rings are a safety problem,
but in case of Khamsin, which is steered with the finger tips (often on the spokes),
this is no problem.

Ulf

 

A short answer: driving gloves!

 

Bob / Graeme,
This is great information! The ends of the old hose are fine but the swage at the pump end is dripping. I have 2 small regional airports close by so as soon as the old hose gets back from MIE I'll take it to one of the aircraft maintenance facilities and see what they can do.

Thanks guys,
Rick . . . .