+1. You have just demonstrated my point: most people who bash it don't know how to use it. And who the hell cares how it is in traffic????? All clutch cars are out of their element in traffic.
While we don't have to agree - isn't everyone entitled to opinion? I for one have no experience with the F1 other than a test drive. I ended up opting for a six speed and love it. I am quite sure that the F1 would be fun as well once you get the hang of it.
I may be wrong, memory isn't as good as it was, but I seem to remember that when the F1 first came out in the F355 it shifted marginally faster than the factory drivers could shift a standard transmission. That puts Simba in a pretty rarefied group if he can shift a manual faster than a F355 F1, which I don't believe to be the case. Would I want a F1 if I were driving in NYC traffic all the time? Well, no, of course not. But who would buy a 355 for that anyway.
I promise you that not a single person alive can shift as fast as the 355 F1 and keep both hands on the wheel And as said many times before: this is NOT an "F1 is better than a manual" argument. The question was how is the F1 in the 355, and I stand by my position that it is the best of them all.
You ain't that old. You are correct. Ferrari tested the cars against one another and no one was able to match the shift times of the F1. I guess our friend really belongs in F1 because he has a talent as yet unmatched. By the way, did you get that money I sent to you in London?
There was one. A woman driver who was a parapalegic was allowed to drive with an F1 equipped car that was converted to hand controls. Otherwise F1 was not allowed in the 355's.
I found this chart- http://www.ferrariturbo.com/Ferrari/New/schema.html Obviously on the F1 throttle stayed wide open during the shift which equalled less rpm drop on the shift. They lifted throttle on the manual box gear change. Shows about 200ms for gear selector change on F1, maybe 100ms on manual. Clutch disengagement time 150ms on F1, almost 300ms manual. Though it would be considered abusive by many I'm curious how much closer the manual trans would be to the F1 if executing a shift without lifting on the throttle.
Damn, you too. What friggen mess that was. It was a very sophisticated attack, I had to change every password on every account and get a new email account.
I don't understand your post but the street F1 systems are designed to be shifted at full throttle when maximum performance is desired. It is no more abusive than any other maximum driving modes are, F1 or not.
Yes I understand that, which is why I stated "Obviously on the F1 throttle stayed wide open during the shift". By looking at the chart you can see they lifted off the throttle on the manual trans car during the shift. What I was trying to say is I would be curious to the shift time and rpm drop on the manual trans car if they kept throttle to the floorboard as is done on the F1. (though it would be considered somewhat abusive to the -manual- trans car)
Nice link, I hadn't seen that before. I also measured 'shift time', but using an accelerometer. So that includes the complete event of clutch engage and gear change (see my link on page 1 of this thread).
Now I get it. Still slower shift time. That was measured exhaustively by Ferrari when it was developed. What you are talking about would/might effect straight line acceleration but not the shift speed.