Proper pronunciation of "forza"?

Forza means force in english, fuerza in spanish and thats it.
The word can be used to mean different things of course, just like in any other language.

 

DING DING DING!!!!

LADIES AND GENTELMEN, WE HAVE A WINNER....scorecard please...(drum-roll)....AND THE HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD IS.......FORTZ-A!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

You are quite correct on the variations of the Italian language.
There is virtually a different one every 30 kilometers or so.
However, the pure Italian is believed to be the one spoken in Tuscany (although even they have an accent).
Back to Forza: the first and foremost meaning or translation of it is STRENGTH.
After that you have a many uses of the word and one of them, as you pointed out, is when you see it used in Forza Italia (a Political Party) or Forza Ferrari, where the word is used as when we say: Come-on Ferrari or Come-on to the team we are fan of.
Still no T in it, as there is no T in Pizza !!

 

On page 2 of FORZA issue #1, Henry Rasmussen introduces his new magazine as;

"FORZA (pronounced fort-sa, meaning force, power, might in Italian)."

So whatever the pundits say, they guy who owned the magazine named it "Fort-sa", so that is the name of the mag and good enough for me.

 

Slight drift:

A Murcielago is mur-CHEE-a-la-go, not mur-SEE-a-la-go?

 

I speak Italian and Calabrese fluently luckily for me calabrese is very similar to Italian. Actually maybe it's unfortunately because sometimes I mix it up Some of the northern dialects sound like another language! haha.


There is plenty of words in Italian that have FORT in the word but NONE are said fort, they are all said FOR-Txxxx.

examples;forte is said for-te.
fortezza is said for-tez-za.
fortuna is said for-tu-na.
fortificato, for-ti-fi-ca-to

The T is always a leading sound not an ending sound.

Other forza words forzatamente is said forrrr-za-ta-men-te.
forzatura, forrrr-za-tu-ra.

The word is still has the slightest split at FOR(roll it)-ZA so any thing that sounds like T is coming from how the person is saying ZA in Italian.

Now this is mentioned by 348SStb and roccapalumbo way back in 2004 but they still cut the word in the incorrect English way.
The word forza is said "fortsa", technically there is no cut but the za sound is "TSA".
Like the example of zucchero its pronounced tsuk-ke-ro. Where they and others cut the T makes no sense with the examples they made or Italian in general.

the tsa must be said together to make za. za doesn't sound like "sa" or "a".

Say it forrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrtsa or for-tsa the slight break comes from rolling the r.

Anyone who says it's FORTZ-A is EPIC FAIL and doesn't speak any Italian.

Here is an Luciano Ligabue singing Ho Ancora La Forza. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzX9XMI5Obw 1st forza comes in at 25s






Also to the person that bumped the thread. There is an 1000+ post thread about forza the game http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=257830&page=21

 

Great post. Very informative. Thanks.

Nice song too. Btw, how do you say Ligabue?

 

But... That would negate the entire purpose of internet forums as a social medium.

 

Screw this thread, if you want to learn how to say it go to your local italian owned pizzeria and ask the guys, make sure to visit a few to see if any variations and make sure they are fluent and know the language correctly. If not fly to Italy and spend time with the locals not just staring at art and stuff. Take some lessons here in the U.S. Also why the hell so much on the pronunciation of this word when the typical english speaker fails at pronouncing almost any other word thats not in english, thats beyond me.

 

Here's the guy to ask!

 

Look it is incredibly easy, yes it is spelled FORZA but only sounds pronounced FORTZ-AH!, unfortunately only us Italians can say it properly and to the rest of you mere mortals it sounds like we are saying FORT-ZA.

Sort of like when certain people say COOL WHIP and others say COOOL HHHWHIP.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KK76cvClD7c

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And us Spanish can say it too

 

Murcielago is a Spanish word meaning bat that was given to a bull. All Lamborghinis except the Countach (and the numbered early models) are named after Spanish bulls that were pardoned in the ring,

Miura (a breed of bulls), Islero, Murcielago (bat), Espada (sword), Urraco (a type of bird), Diablo (devil), Jarama (a river), Gallardo (brave) are all names of bulls. Incidentally, Before being pardoned Islero killed Manolete, the greatest bullfighter of all time.

In Spanish, It's mur-SEE-e-lago. That's the correct pronunciation. After SEE it's an e (as in the first e in "elevation"), not an a.

 

Bedrumé, I could have said it better. Sti cazzi di ignoranti!!

 

Are you a big fan of Ligabue? My Brother inlaw is the founder and bass player for the only
Ligabue indorsed tribute band, "Oronero", in northern Italy...Scusi, didn't mean to sidetrack...

psorella

 

Wow, all this conversations has made me hungry, I'm going to get a slice of peet-sa

 

Try http://www.oddcast.com/home/demos/tts/tts_example.php?sitepal

for translations

 

I don't know how you speak Italian but I wouldn't say calabrese is very similar to it.



By the way you can hear FORZA here at around 0:50 too.
Just don't ask what that song means LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTfpdj0I-gE

 

It's pronoucned pee-zah...sheesh

 

Push a fart out and say Forza at the same time, maybe you'll get it right.