pit bulls...have we mentioned them?

Guys, I suggest you taking a break from this thread. Don't want to get banned for this. Enough is enough, going too far.

 

I smell....I smell....I smell... TESTOSTERONE !

 

Listen to this advice.

 

Two warnings weren't enough???

Sadly, they were too wound up to listen. Someone earned some penalty time.

 

For 10 years, my family had a pitbull/boxer mix. We rescued him as a puppy and didn't realize his breeding until he matured. He was the best dog and never showed any signs of aggression. That was not the case with the dachshund or the poodle or the lhaso. You can find examples of good and bad in any breed.

 

Yep, there are always good examples.

There are bad examples as well.

 

+1. There are plenty pitbulls that are sweet as can be but there are plenty that would love nothing better than to grab your throat. Maybe it is the inexperienced that have ruined the breed but the statistics don't lie. There are other dogs that can be unpredictable as well but when it happens the victim is not killed or severly injured. I had two chowchows and they were great dogs but I have met some that scare the hell out of me and I wouldn't deny the fact that they can snap on someone that isn't the owner in a second.I have 3 little kids and I would never let them mess around with anyones pitbull I don't care if it has never bitten anyone before. Its just not worth what it could do in a second if it wanted to. I don't know if I would say ban the breed but I wouldn't be oposed to a mandatory high registration fee to keep the punks from having them. With so many breeds available I just don't see the need or why someone would want to assume the risk.

 

You can't look at statistics blindly. You have to understand their limitations and what underlying data they might be hiding or how they are being manipulated to support the presenter's case. Pit bulls might be at the top of the list of dog attacks simply because a disproportionate number of owners encourage them to be violent, giving all legitimate owners a bad name. I would like to see statistics for caring, nurturing owners. How many pitbulls in such environments are involved in unprovoked attacks? Very few, I would think. It seems to me that jerks like to own them, train them to be vicious, and don't care for them properly.

Sad.

 

That very well may be part of the reason but it doesn't change the outcome. For every good responsible owner their may be hundreds of idiots that have the dogs for the wrong reasons. you can't stop that if the breed is readily available so unfortunately you have a problem. I don't buy the argument that no pitbull is inherently mean though. There are mean dogs in every breed that have great owners. Just like people, dogs have different personalities.

 

Who got banned??? I don't see banned user next to anyone's name.

Mark

 

VectorW8

 

Ok, Vector, tell me you will leave your infant baby unattended (out of view) in the house w/ your Pit Bull without doubts.

 

But when Chihuahuas bite they don't rip your throat out or crunch the bones in your legs or arms & render your musculature hamburger. Can't say I've heard of Taco Bell pup killing any a small child.

 

He will not be able to reply for a week.

 

Some people have to go to work. When I get home I just have time to eat & go to bed so I can get up at 5 a.m. next day.

 

Yes, but if you don't identify the root cause of the problem, you won't solve it, will you? Blaming the breed, when it may be no more vicious than other guard dogs like German Shepherds or Chow Chows (mean little things) instead of the typical owners who are attracted to owning them simply is unfair to the breed and typecasts it as being worse than it really is.

It's like saying blacks commit more crimes. You don't think economics and other environmental factors are the cause? You think being born with that skin color makes you more predisposed to commit crime?

 

I don't think you get it. I agree that in many cases it is the owner that may be the problem. The dogs may have the same aggression level as other dogs but the fact is they cause way more damage when they bite. Pitbuls are not people and they have no rights. What people want is either stiffer regualtion, way harder requirements to own one and if this can't be done it just isn't worth the risk to others for some to own a breed that does so much damage.

 

I wouldn't let any breed alone with an infant.

Pitbull conversations usually end up being like a Politics and Religions thread. You'll have one side far left, one side far right, and some people in the middle. No point trying to convince the far left or far right side of anything.

 

+1

I wouldn't leave my Pit mix with an infant or anyone under 12 years old- he's just too powerful and easily excited, which is a bad combination with a 120lb dog.

He's not properly socialized (I tried, but oddly enough people at the dog park would freak out on me every_single_time) so we have had issues with other dogs that just happen to be walking by when the front / garage door is open for five seconds. Any time he's in the backyard unattended he has to make it through three gates to get to the outside world.

Quite honestly, say what you guys will but I believe Pit owners must be constantly vigilant and have quite a few fail-safes in place. There are a lot of breeds that let you be a lazy dog owner and this isn't one of them.

 

This is something a lot of first time Pitbull owners don't get. They read that this dog needs a lot of activity and think "Yeah I'll walk him everyday". But then life gets in the way and you start missing those daily walks all the while the Pit has all this built up energy that needs to be released.

People need to do more research on breeds that realistically fit their lifestyle.

 

There are a lot of breeds that (when mixed) can resemble a pit, however it's usually pretty obvious. I've never lied but have taken some educated guesses on my dog's background.

BTW Todd, Moose is hungry.. what are you doing for dinner?
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There have been cases of toy breed dogs killing infants but your right they don't do anywhere near as much damage. As an owner of a rottweiler I know that we need to be vigilant in our ownership and that our dog will immediately be judged guilty in any altercation whether they were the aggressor or not. My rott would sleep between the crib and the nursery door every night with all 3 of my children. I trust her with out question with any child but I do not expect other parents to feel the same way. Just don't blame my dog when we meet and let them sniff each other and the other dog bites first. I have had it happen before when a shih tsu took a crack at my rott's nose. The lady yelled at me even though my dog was bleeding and never even growled or snapped. She had an aggressive dog but when they only weigh 10 pounds it is easy to manage and nobody reports bites by toy breeds.
Venus your situation is different and the pit problem you have is a real problem.