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  1. mike996

    mike996 F1 Veteran

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    I've searched and discovered that the injectors for 308-328 are the same and available fairly inexpensively. But I'm having some trouble understanding the parts diagrams re what else is needed when replacing the injectors. THere is a rubber bushing that shows in the parts diagram that is listed as $150+ EACH on the Ricambi site. Am I reading this right, that 8 small rubber bushings are needed ( or MAY be needed) for injector replacement at a total price of over 1200 bucks? What other parts may be necessary? I don't want to start the work and THEN figure out I should have purchased additional parts. And surely rubber bushings don't cost 150+ each....right? ;)

    So could someone clarify exactly what I need to purchase to ensure I have everything I need to replace the injectors on mu 328. I have the injector puller on the way.

    Thanks!
     
  2. Steve Magnusson

    Steve Magnusson Two Time F1 World Champ Lifetime Rossa

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    For a 328 you need:

    8 each 113570 = the fat "donut" o-ring that holds the injector into the bushing (but buy these from AutohausAZ or importeccatalog using the Bosch PN 3430210606 for a much better price -- as I hope you did for the 0437502047 CIS injector too ;))

    8 each 101031 = this is the o-ring that seals the (reuseable) bushing 113309 into the intake manifold (late 308QV and 328 use the same bushing)

    You do not need:

    113309 = this is the (expensive) bushing = reuseable unless broken

    103326 = "Seeger" = the snap-ring holding the bushing into the intake manifold = reuseable unless lost ;)
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  3. mike996

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    Great info Steve and exactly what I was looking for. I'll order the parts from Autohaus

    Thanks!
     
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    Does this same information apply to '89 model 328's?
     
  5. Steve Magnusson

    Steve Magnusson Two Time F1 World Champ Lifetime Rossa

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    Yes
     
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    steve (or anyone), would you happen to know what the correct bosch p/n would be
    for the "101031" o-ring?

    thanks
     
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    Yes,,

    BOSCH #
    3 430 210 606-000

    Need 2 , Packs of five.
    (I have 8 NEW Bosch 328 O rings, for sale 1/2 price.)
    PM me.

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  8. Steve Magnusson

    Steve Magnusson Two Time F1 World Champ Lifetime Rossa

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    I don't think that there is one as this really isn't a "Bosch" part per-se -- it's more a F part. It probably is just a standard sized metric o-ring, and, if you could get the right size, in a material compatible with gasoline, it would/should work just fine; however, it probably isn't something that you can get at a local US hardware store -- so by the time you factor in making a special trip, or making a special order, I doubt that you'd come out ahead $/time-wise vs the approx. $2 cost from a non-dealer F part supplier (if you are ordering some other F parts at the same time) -- JMO.

    Use at your own risk, but on my TR (which uses a slightly different bushing, but the same 101031 o-ring), I have:

    groove width in bushing = 3.5 mm
    OD of groove in bushing where 101031 o-ring sits = 18.5 mm
    ID in intake manifold that receives bushing = 23 mm
    therefore, effective groove depth = 2.25 mm

    ID of 101031 o-ring (free state) = 17.3-17.5 mm (new part from US non-dealer F part supplier)
    cross-section diameter of 101031 o-ring (free state) = 2.5-2.6 mm (new part from US non-dealer F part supplier)
     
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    thank you for the reply steve.

    after re-reading several times, i was enlightened.
     
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    Those dimensions are VERY CLOSE to an AS568A-115 3/32" o-ring. The actual dimensions are:
    ID = 17.1mm|0.674"
    Cross Section Diameter: 2.6mm|0.103"

    McMaster-Carr has them in standard Viton: #9464K28
     
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    How do y'all get the injector bushing out, small hook?
     
  12. Steve Magnusson

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    That might be one option (putting a hook down the center hole of the bushing after removing the injector), but you need to be "gentle" because the 113309 plastic material is brittle/fragile. First time I took my (aluminum) bushings out, I took the intake manifolds off and pressed them out from below (and it took some force because of the dried fuel varnish).
     

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