1982 Mondial on Craigslist/SF Bay Area for $9k

Brian

Whats the rock-bottom number you'll take for it?
j/k

 

Do I have the only Mondial without power steering? All the ones for sale on Craigslist and eBay have it. Dang!

 

Been on C/L for about 6 months now, or longer. Someone go buy it so we don't have to keep seeing it pop up. There is a place near there that breaks down F-cars. If they won't even touch it, that's bad.

 

Been on C/L for 3 YEARS.

It's a false ad to drive you to some membership buying club or some such nonsense...

 

Hey, full_garbage, ain't no false ad, but it is nonsense.

I've kicked the tires on that heap. Read my post below in the "cheap Mondials" thread.

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showpost.php?p=139330477&postcount=451

 

Nope, I gots me one too. Think of it as a workout without having to go to the gym!

Now that I think about it... isn't '82 a little early for power steering on a Mondial? I'm a bit dubious about the dealer's description of that car. When I went to see it they were asking me how I opened the engine compartment since the electricals were inop.

 

Running or not, sounds like a parts car

 

My mistake- But a VERY similar ad has been running on other craigslists across the country- Ferrari.Porsche, AMG Mercedes for cheap with an "888" number that's pure scam.


Oh by the way- the "garage" is full... The "garbage" has been emptied....

 

By request, I'm heading out to snap some more pics of this heap. Anyone else got a particular shot they'd like to see?

 

If you are headed out anyway I'm curious about body rust. I have no interest in purchase so don't go out of your way for me. Be interesting to get a good look though since this one keeps popping up here.

 

Get the VIN, so we know to stay away from it....


PDG

 

I cannot find the power steering on my 82 Mondial
At that price if local and legit running would be worth it as parts car

 

I went back Saturday to take a look at the car. Couldn't find any rust bubbles that might've been covered up by the "el cheapo" paint job, but I did find evidence of corrosion most everywhere else on the exterior. Also found some small puddles of oil and coolant beneath the car.

Speaking of things getting covered up... it seems the shop never worked on a Mondial before. Instead of properly removing the plastic side grills, they just broke them off. Ever see a read-headed pony before?

I started the car to see if I could get it to overheat but the temp. needle seemed to stabilize around 220. Oil temp sat at about 200. Definitely smelled coolant though. Until the engine was warm, I heard an awfully loud clacking sound, could this be from "sticky" valves? I'm no expert, but it sure didn't sound healthy.

I've got many more pictures if anyone's interested.
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Wow... that's either an owner who didn't care about the car or one with zero money to spend on the car. Either way.. I'd run.

That would be awful for a Kia.

You're better off finding a half way decent one than trying to save this from the scrapyard.

You might want to start a new thread-- "what's the worse you've seen someone do to a Ferrari".

 

Sorry guys, you'll have to forgive me. I can't help myself. I see the words "parts car" and my fingers just start typing....it's the damndest thing.

(Disclaimer: I have not seen this particular car in person. But I have seen it and others like it discussed here over and over again.)

***Stepping onto soapbox***

It should not be considered a parts car. Does it need a ton of work? Yes. Would it cost more to properly restore than it is "worth"? Absolutely. Is it a total piece of crap by Ferrari standards? Of course. Could you make money breaking it up for parts? Probably so. Is it worth the $9999 they are asking? Nope. But I still maintain it is not a parts car.

I still can't wrap my brain around how easily that word gets thrown around in the Ferrari community. The first thing that got me into cars were British cars, and I am still a big British car guy. I also hang out with some muscle car guys. In those communities it seems folks commonly drag home rusty heaps that haven't run in years with half the parts in the trunk and spend more than they are worth restoring them. Why? Because they love the marque, the cars, and love working on them. When I first got active in the Ferrari community, I was shopping in the bottom end of the Ferrari world price-wise, so came across a lot of these parts car threads. I was shocked at what folks considered a parts car. I remember one car had a busted windshield and some interior water damage but was mechanically sound. Sure enough, some said it was a parts car because the windshield and interior bits cost more than it was "worth" fixed.

My definition of a parts car is: A car where there is too much structural or body rust to make a restoration project possible using that car as a base. As crappy as it may be, that Mondial is far, far away from meeting that criteria. It seems in the Ferrari community a car is labeled a parts car as soon as it will cost more to fix it than it is "worth". I know there are some people that look at these cars only through a financial mindset, but there is a bigger group that has a deep passion for these cars and should want to see them restored and on the road, not broken up for parts. Now, I am not saying everybody should be in line to run out and drop a bunch of money on this old car, but for the handy type that likes to work on cars it could make a great project.

Now, I know that parts for Ferraris are an order of magnitude more expensive compared to other cars. Restoring one would not be cheap. The buyer of a project car has to have a totally different mindset than someone wanting to buy one, drive it for a few years, then sell it. But I would hope there are at least a few folks out there willing to take on these projects.

***stepping off soapbox***

Now, I'm not sure if I need to run for the flame suit closet or take my chances without cover.....

 

Sorry it IS a parts car because to correct all the problems, you could buy a much better one cheaper.

It's better to take this poor thing and give its parts to the good cars left on the road worth preserving that need it.

 

You are still only looking at the car as a financial transaction. Below are just a few of countless examples, but these guys all could have bought a better car for less than they ended up spending on their restorations. Should they not have restored these cars?

http://www.mckennasgarage.com/xke/index.htm

http://www.britishheritagemotorsports.com/mccleave/index.htm

http://rwarn17588.wordpress.com/2009/04/21/1964-corvette-restoration/

 

I would move on to another one.... this one's a money pit

 

You make a good point. After all, it's not necessarily easy to put a price on a labor of love.

 

Now that I look at the pictures a bit more, I'm noticing rust everywhere. On the suspension, in the engine compartment... but the kicker is the manual. It looks like someone soaked it in a bucket of water! I didn't think we had hurricanes in CA, but this car might be evidence to the contrary

Oh I have! I got me a pristine '88 Mondial 3.2 for just under $20k, although it's yet to make it to my garage. But I wouldn't have even thought to shop for a Ferrari if I didn't first see this one; this was the car that got the ball rolling.
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