Ethanol in gasoline.....a scam or benificial ?

I'm not going to speak for Visualhomage, but I read everything I can get my hands on. The industry should be data driven. When the results of a blowout at 4,000 feet have oil temperatures indicative of a much deeper source, and then proceed to produce their estimated reserves 5 or 6 times over, you have to ask yourself "What's wrong with this equation?".

Methane hydrates have been found on the sea floor and on Mars and on the moon. Any signs of biotic life on the moon? Although it's a simple hydrocarbon chain, it is a hydrocarbon.

Oil migrates from a source, and the migration path is the path of least resistance, whether it be through fractures or through a porous and permeable formation. It gets trapped in reservoir rock that has porosity and permeability, these same formations where people deduce the organic origins of oil. In essence, this is like looking at your parents and saying that's the extent of your heritage and failing to trace back generations from where their grandparents immigrated.

 

My friend, most of our lives we are taught the biotic theory origin of oil. This is taught in elementary school up through high school and in college level biology. "Oil comes from the dinosaurs" is how it is introduced to elementary students.

I am well aware of the biotic theory many times over. It is regarded as fact despite voluminous mounting evidence against it.

From your tone and defensive position of traditional theory, you deny that biotic origin oil theory is weak?

 

So all the dinosaurs didn't die in one spot?

 

I take issue with Mr. Carlin's adage!

That implies that all the people you know are a representative sample of the populous, which we know is not always the case. It does not account for the phenomenon whereby smart people are drawn together for companionship, and the insanely stupid aggregate together (presumably for warmth and/or feats of pain-inducing bravado). If you're at either end of the spectrum, the vast majority of the people you know will be on the extreme of the spectrum with you. If, on the other hand, you are exactly average yourself and associate with fellows of a similar caliber, then perhaps Mr. Carlin's statement would be more often true than not.

All the best,
Andrew.

 

You are reading into my statements what isn't there. I asked you a simple question. Your response is quite interesting though.

 

ok, fair enough

 

One can deny that deat dinos were the stargin substance that turned into oil without denying oil is of biotic origin.

That is some other form of life ended up creating what became oil other than large lizards that lived between 400 MYA and 250 MYA.

 

I will clarify:

Dinosaurs are often used figuratively as they are easy to teach to children.

But any biomass in general from the distant past decomposes and breaks down including plants and animals of all types --and none of them created oil.

There is no shortage of oil; there is no oil crisis in literal terms of running out. Oil is created in perpetuity and will outlive people.

 

Not to get in the middle of your dialogue here (although I do agree with Visualhomage), but even if there was only "150 years of oil left" as the media,enviro's whomever like to spit out; doesn't logic tell us to continue to do as we've alway done and continue to get oil in "virtually" every place we can while at the same time developing new technologies?

 

There's a reason windmills that are contracted to deliver X amount of electricity have gas-powered backups.

Fossil fuels are efficient and pack a powerful punch. 100 man-years of power in a 42 gallon barrel of oil for 80 bucks. 100 men working year-round for 80 bucks. You can't get that kind of cheap power anywhere else.

The oil industry has been painted in a bad light, as a result of the fraud perpetuated with of greenhouse gasses causing global warming lies. The amount of tax incentives for alternative energies has gone through the roof. Take away those incentives, and geothermal goes away, wind goes away, and solar goes away. Am I missing any?

All these new technologies will supplement hydrocarbon-based fuels, but they aren't going to replace them.

 

The oil companies earned themselves a bad rep long before there was any talk of global warming. Oil spill after oil spill, seepage from improperly capped wells, exploding refineries ... this list is VERY long.

As far as geothermal goes; I don't care if I get tax incentives for it or not. When I build my house I will have ground source heat pumps. Of course, I live in a region with plenty of ground heat readily available and people here have USED that long before the term "tax incentive" even existed.

People have used wind, solar, and geo long before tax incentive came in.

If the oil companies keep jacking up the price of oil you won't even NEED tax incentives to make solar, wind, and geo pay off!

 

I was referring to geothermal powerplants where they drill for steam to turn turbines which, in turn, generate electricity, not the heat-exchange pumps.

 

To add, my position is not one of anti-alternative energy. I'm all for developing other energy platforms. They are being developed anyway and should be.

There is a stigma around that if you, in any way shape or form, support oil then you are an anti-environmentalist and are insensitive --which is also patently false.