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Registering Boxer in NJ

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  1. Francesco_Baracca

    Francesco_Baracca Formula Junior

    May 18, 2005
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    Can an 1984 Boxer bbi be registered in new jersey without epa paperwork?
     
  2. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    You can replace missing paperwork, if it was passed.

    If not, I'd be nervous about registering it ANYWHERE!
     
  3. Francesco_Baracca

    Francesco_Baracca Formula Junior

    May 18, 2005
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    So you "have" to have epa paperwork?
     
  4. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    #4 BigTex, Feb 24, 2010
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    You know truthfully we are getting close to "no one cares"...about the issue.

    If you have the title work done based upon another State's documents, and your insurance carrier takes the VIN number, to provide Proof of Insurance....you are probably home free.

    In Texas they quitting smogging the car and call it antique at 25 years of age....that's the reason I bought all my 1977s....we are 'there' now for your car.

    But more to the issue if your car was brought into the USA , 'in the day'......somebody got that acceptance done.

    You can take this to PMs if you want to...
    Alan

    I looked at an early Boxer here that was sent back to Italy, and when they brought it BACK (the second time into USA) had to scamble to find the documents, or it was going to be seized...THAT is the real issue I would not want someone to take MY car away....
     
  5. Newman

    Newman F1 World Champ
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    After 25 years its not an issue unless its CA and maybe a few other states.
     
  6. parkerfe

    parkerfe F1 World Champ

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    #6 parkerfe, Feb 24, 2010
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    Even if not required, you can contact Richard Merritt, US-DOT at 202-366-5300. Give him the last 5 numbers of yor car's serial number and he will tell you if the car is here legally. If so, for $19 he will have a copy of the DOT compliance letter mailed to you. Its a nice record to have of your car. That's what I did when I first bought my BB512i and got them in the mail a few days after my phone call...
     
  7. Francesco_Baracca

    Francesco_Baracca Formula Junior

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    10-4 thanks guys.
     
  8. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Thanks, Frank, for the phone numbers!!!

    That's really what I was getting at, unless it wandered into the US recently, it probably DID have some....

    Or you could borrow Frank's, and use White Out......:D :D :D

    There ARE a number of them lurking in Canada, that have never been modified or brought in.....so it's possible.
     
  9. JazzyO

    JazzyO F1 World Champ

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    There are a number of them lurking in Europe, too, that have never been brought in. :)


    Onno
     
  10. boxndoc1

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    I was just at nj dmv, they do not ask for the epa papers however, there seems to be a problem with certain vin# of low production cars since they updated there cmptrs. they are asking for vin # verifications from the previous state on any european cars unless someone has put one in the new system. This is true for the boxer unless someone registered one with in the last 2 weeks. But to answer the question no EPA was required ., ( although i think one should have it for themselves )
     
  11. rdefabri

    rdefabri Three Time F1 World Champ

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    Since the car is over 25 years old, you can register QQ and you wouldn't need them.

    You may not want to register QQ - in that case, not sure of the treatment there.
     
  12. ASG 86TR

    ASG 86TR Formula 3

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    I did Classic Registration Vs QQ. I go for an odometer check every two years and that is it. I think I am limited to 5K miles a year. No special plates required, just a different window sticker.

    Best thing I did. Adam
     
  13. ztarum

    ztarum Formula 3

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    Are you sure you don't mean collector car registration (triangle sticker)?

    That is only open to cars less than 25 years old.
     
  14. ArtS

    ArtS F1 World Champ
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    Collector car registration is not limited to less than 25 years old. I considered doing it on my '65 330 (ended up doing the regular inspection instead).

    I'm not sure what you need to initially register the car as an antique or collector car (check on the DMV's website). Once the car is in the system it no longer needs to have emissions checks.

    Regards,

    Art S.
     
  15. ztarum

    ztarum Formula 3

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    #15 ztarum, Mar 3, 2010
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  16. opus10583

    opus10583 Formula 3

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    ..."QQ"??

    I thought the Federal limits were 20 years for EPA, 25 years for DOT?
     
  17. donv

    donv Two Time F1 World Champ
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    I'm not in NJ, but I've never had anyone ask me for my EPA/DOT paperwork. However, as others have said, you want to make sure the car has it, since at least in theory if it's not here legally, EPA and/or DOT can have it crushed if they find it.
     
  18. SOFTWAREGUY

    SOFTWAREGUY Karting

    Oct 20, 2004
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    Same situation for me as Boxnodoc1 with NJ.
    1985 Eurospec Testarossa
    Registered the car in 2006 I think.
    Had a problem with the VIN - Vin not in computer - very strange to me since it was currently registered, and I had a copy of the previous owener's registation.
    Gave them a tracing of the VIN, waited a bit, they did their research and the car was registered.
    They did not ask for DOT papers (which I had copies of).
    I registered the car as a regular car (no QQ, collector, etc.)
     

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