Presenting 599 GTO: Official

How 'bout "Scudale"?
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Gulf colours would be sacrilege on a Ferrari (imo)

 

Yes, but that Ford is such a cool car.

 

I'm definitely more excited for this car than than I was for the Scuderia, but I don't see a need to invoke historic liveries with this one, since there are some many ways to customize this as your own! This would be my own variation.

Realistically though, how much more radical could Ferrari make this car and still abide by road regulations and maintain a streetable level of reliability? I am still surprised they were able to shed 400+ lbs off the car and make it look reasonably appointed.
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I don't think there's any Ferrari that can be compared in terms of depreciation potential with the 599GTO. The SA is an inappropriate benchmark as it appeals to a different group of people: buyers who want to combine the V12 engine with open-air driving and some exclusivity. It is an appealing car, but not one for hardcore racing/track enthusiasts. I somehow feel the GTO will enjoy a wider fan club. The Barchetta is somewhere in the middle in my view.
I think the 599 GTO will perform slightly better than a 360CS price-wise. There will always be demand for those cars and in my view prices will rise in the future. I remember driving a 360CS when it was new and thinking it was a bit too much, but I absolutely adore it now. It is a future classic, although it is heavily based on a mass-produced model (if any Ferrari can ever be called that)

With regards to the use of the name, I would urge you to look at similar "branding" exercises at Porsche, such as the RS,GT2. The 993 RS is already a classic and has none of the race pedigree of the 2.7RS. It is worth a lot more than it cost new, yet its production numbers are almost double those of the 599GTO. I won't mention the 993GT2, because it does have a Le Mans class win and naturally is a much more sought after car

 

I would sell my HGTE but keep my GTO.

 

My thoughts exactly

 

Thanks , but what do you mean exactly by "narrower towards the nose " ? That the front part of the car is less wide on the GTO than on the GTB ?

 

The interesting thing about your photo's is that the first one won Le Mans twice and a racing version of the second did very well at the last 24 Hours of Nurburgring.

In your 599 Set the top one did well in races while the likely hood of a race version of the second doing well in 24 Hour Races today is slim to none.

Ferrari V8's are very successful race cars today in GT2 but the last time a Ferrari V-12 Won Le Mans was 45 years ago. (1 OA)

 

Being competitive and winning are two different things I do agree that dominating the "rule bending" MC12 would be a high task, bit last season the Corvette's ran the lead Maser close on many occasions.

 

Don't forget that nice class win in LMP1 in 1998, with an American team...

 

Yes. At least thats what I was told at the one to one presentation. By exactly how many cm. or inches was not discussed. The added mass to the rear end also slightly increases the height of the trunk lid compared to the GTB. The changes in the overall dimensions and weight of the GTO vs.the GTB have required totally new body panels be fabricated for the GTO exclusively.

 

thanks

 

Works on 308s...
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I tore the "F1 Championship" doo-dad off my dashboard 'cause my car didn't win it.

 

The more I see the Historical Racing Livery..the more I like it.

I was pretty surprised by the 200kg weight reduction.

Count me a big fan.

 

Um...its a 100kg weight reduction. Which translates to 220lbs

 

I never saw a quoted figure for the shed lbs, but comparing kerbs between GTO and GTB (1495kg v 1690kg) It looks a bit more than 100kg..

 

...and a GTS class win (10th OA) in 2003 with the 550 Maranello

 

Here's what I think. Basically GT 1 are old cars/designs. If Ferrari were to spend huge money the 599 could have been competitive by as the rules are today with the adjusting of performance to make race cars more equal V 12'S are relics because they have too much internal friction for regulated/restricted HP and worse fuel efficiency for regulated/restricted HP.

That's why I'm using a V8 in P 4/5 Competizione.

Cheers

 

Will that V8 be the one used in the 430, or will it be the 4.5 liter? I'm guessing it'll be a GT2 contender? Sorry for being so far behind on the project

 

I agree, if Ferrari really wanted the 599 to be a dominant GT racer, they could with the right finance in place. The ProDrive prepared 550 GT's where a great success before the MC12 program. But it seems that Ferrari/Fiat are content with the way things currently are, with the V8 Ferrari's in GT2, and the Masser in GT1. As long as the MC12 keeps winning, Ferrari have no reason to develop another GT1.

My guess is that they will wait to develop the Enzo replacement in to there next GT1 car and we will not see a factory supported 599 GT1 program which is a shame for the GTO name.

It will also be interesting to see how the Nissan GTR goes this year in the FIA GT1 class, as it by far the newest off the designs, although the the racer is quite far removed from the road car, with rear wheel drive, and a 5552cc non-turbo V8!

In my opinion the world of GT racing needs a major shake up. I would love to see the FIA, Lemans and Japan Super GT cars all run under the same regulations. In fact, i would like to see them all take on something similar to the Japan Super GT rules, as they are currently the most advanced and fastest GT's racing.

Ralph Firman, who is currently racing in Japan Super GT series, said in an article i read that one of the teams took over a Maserati MC12 GT1 to Japan for a test, with the view to running one in the Super GT, but they soon abandoned the idea, as it was around 4 seconds a lap off the pace.

 

Interesting!

Bryan

We'll be similar to GT 2 but in an Experimental Class at the 24 Hours of Nurburgring as P 4/5 isn't a GTO.

Cheers

 

Thank you Jim,

I can't wait to see it!