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Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by TZ 750, Feb 8, 2010.

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  1. TZ 750

    TZ 750 Formula Junior

    Jul 18, 2009
    912
    #126 TZ 750, Apr 7, 2010
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    We have to move fast here,
    pull the smaller socket and take a peek.

    Looks likt the spherical is almost home !

    (Pardon the camera
    shake - only so many hands...)
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  2. TZ 750

    TZ 750 Formula Junior

    Jul 18, 2009
    912
    #127 TZ 750, Apr 7, 2010
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  3. TZ 750

    TZ 750 Formula Junior

    Jul 18, 2009
    912
    #128 TZ 750, Apr 7, 2010
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    Looks like we are home !

    This would be better done
    with a proper hydraulic press,
    but I don't have home access to one.

    Do'in the best we can.

    Snap ring is partly in place to check the "fit."
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  4. NeuroBeaker

    NeuroBeaker Advising Moderator
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    There's some nice work going on in here. :D

    And I never knew that strawberry jam could be used in Ferrari repair. ;) :eek:

    All the best,
    Andrew.
     
  5. TZ 750

    TZ 750 Formula Junior

    Jul 18, 2009
    912
    Thanks for the kind words.

    I suspect, that while the factory was
    racing in the 50's and 60's (far before my time),
    that "saliva" was an acceptable "assembly lube"
    at the track.

    Do Italians have strawberry jam ?
     
  6. TZ 750

    TZ 750 Formula Junior

    Jul 18, 2009
    912
    #131 TZ 750, Apr 8, 2010
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    Spherical retaining circlip going in.

    Notice that part of the clip is (almost)
    in the (correct) second groove.

    The "squeeze" part is in the (incorrect) first groove.

    This would be a problem later, for sure !
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  7. TZ 750

    TZ 750 Formula Junior

    Jul 18, 2009
    912
    #132 TZ 750, Apr 12, 2010
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    While installing the clip rings, my friend Jon
    and I "invented" a cool mechanical trick......

    Measure the width of the two "eyes"
    in the snap rings in the shock "eye."
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  8. TZ 750

    TZ 750 Formula Junior

    Jul 18, 2009
    912
    #133 TZ 750, Apr 12, 2010
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    Flip the shock over and repeat.

    If the two measurements match the distance
    measured when the snap ring was in place
    without the Spherical in place, that the
    snap rings have been confirmed to be
    properly in place !

    I've been wrenching for 50 years,
    and had never thought of that......
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  9. NeuroBeaker

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    Ah, I can just picture the scene now... one mechanic desperately yells for the assistance of another, in a time-critical rebuild to get the car back out on track:

    "Quick - spit on this, I've got cotton mouth!"​

    Hehehe :D

    Presumably they have strawberry jam - I having difficulty contemplating the deprivations suffered by any place in the world that doesn't. ;)

    All the best,
    Andrew.
     
  10. Fred2

    Fred2 F1 World Champ
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    nj
    Hey, It looks like your caliper is broken, there is no Digital read out on it. :)
     
  11. TZ 750

    TZ 750 Formula Junior

    Jul 18, 2009
    912
    Yeah, it's the 50 year thing, and I
    am not yet "completely digital."
     
  12. TZ 750

    TZ 750 Formula Junior

    Jul 18, 2009
    912
    #137 TZ 750, Apr 14, 2010
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    The spherical wants to be well aligned before the
    shock goes into the suspension,
    as later experience will show.

    The spherical is impossible to align by hand,
    so we made a tool from an old 18" 3/8 ratchet extension.

    With little effort, this allows the spherical
    axis to be aligned with the car and the shock.
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  13. TZ 750

    TZ 750 Formula Junior

    Jul 18, 2009
    912
    Good eye one one reader !

    _____(private) PM'd me to offer a question about the old british
    motorcycle transmission in the background of the above photo.

    And YES it is for a 60's Royal Enfield Interceptor !

    I had owned the bike in the mid-60's, selling it to get a
    (whatever could have possessed me...) Harley Davidson.

    Short story is that after 42 years, the bike found it's way
    back into my garage. The owner having located me through
    word-of-mouth and DOT records.

    The bike is being restored (when I get this car back on the road),
    and soon will be running again.

    Hasn't run since 1972.

    Wow, wish my first Ferrari dream would re-appear too !

    (1960 250 Convertible Pinninfarina )
     
  14. TZ 750

    TZ 750 Formula Junior

    Jul 18, 2009
    912
    #139 TZ 750, Apr 17, 2010
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  15. TZ 750

    TZ 750 Formula Junior

    Jul 18, 2009
    912
    #140 TZ 750, Apr 17, 2010
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  16. TZ 750

    TZ 750 Formula Junior

    Jul 18, 2009
    912
    #141 TZ 750, Apr 17, 2010
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    Just as a passing thougth......

    My Team went to Maxton NC for the HOT ROD Magazine
    Land Speed Racing meet this past weekend. We
    (Rider: Shane Stubbs of Houston TX) set a new
    world record on my stock-bodies Suzuki Hayabusa
    with a one-mile accereration run of over 264 MPH.

    This was the fastest wheel-driver (car or motorcycle)
    run in the history of the sport.

    We were traction-limited of the record run, so were only
    able to use about 500 of the 636 rear wheel horsepower available.
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  17. TZ 750

    TZ 750 Formula Junior

    Jul 18, 2009
    912
    #142 TZ 750, Apr 17, 2010
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    You will notice the exhaust pipe exiting the turbo in the right front of the bike.

    At the end of the mile traps, there is a brind, downhill right hand turn, which, ay 264 MPH seems to come up pretty quickly.

    Shane was touching the exhaust pipe to the ground on most runs.......
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  18. TZ 750

    TZ 750 Formula Junior

    Jul 18, 2009
    912
    #143 TZ 750, Apr 19, 2010
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    I called Ferrari of Atlanta several times about
    my "home service network" problam, and they
    in the service department were very helpful.

    When we prepared to install the shocks,
    we were advised that it was not necessary to "pre-charge"
    the shocks with fluid, but we did it anyway.

    We are using the specified SHELL DONAX TA.

    I suppose there are other suitable substitutes - maybe
    even better stuff - but for the time being, I
    would rather go with what Ferrari calls for, and have
    less risk of having to do this all over again.

    More about that later.............
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  19. TZ 750

    TZ 750 Formula Junior

    Jul 18, 2009
    912
    #144 TZ 750, Apr 19, 2010
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  20. TZ 750

    TZ 750 Formula Junior

    Jul 18, 2009
    912
    #145 TZ 750, Apr 22, 2010
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    OK: Some potentially satisfying time,
    putting the shock(s) into the car.

    Below is a diagram of the parts needed.

    Drawing is from the RICAMBI web site.

    I bought all my parts from these folks, and
    it all came quickly. Nice folks,
    and easy to deal with.

    I draw your attention to part # 28 on the drawing
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  21. TZ 750

    TZ 750 Formula Junior

    Jul 18, 2009
    912
    #146 TZ 750, Apr 22, 2010
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  22. TZ 750

    TZ 750 Formula Junior

    Jul 18, 2009
    912
    #147 TZ 750, Apr 22, 2010
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    We decided to attach the fluid hose to the shock with the banjo bolt,
    and the proper NEW copper washers.

    The bolt was slightly tight.

    That allowed us to introduce the shock into the car full of fluid.

    After placing the shock in about the right position, the
    fluid hose was firmly connected at both ends to prevent fluid loss.

    We were told this was not necessary, but we did it anyway, for 2 reasons:

    1) If the car had to go down the road, the $1900 shocks
    would not be dagaged by running "dry," and

    2) If the existing power steering fluid was "contaminated" ( more about this later),
    that the new shock would not
    receive a large "shot" of "bad" fluid.

    You will see that, with the shock in place, with the rubber seals installed, that the
    #28 spacer washer OUTSIDE the spherical joint on the left side but not the right.

    This spacer washer adjusts the stack-up length of the assembly,
    so that the aluminum lower shock mount is neither too tight or too loose.

    If it were too loose, the alloy would be "squeezed together," put under stress, and might fail.

    Likewise, if the assembly is "too tight," the alloy could be bent outwards,
    and also have an increased liklyhood of failure.

    The spacer washers are available in a variety of thicknesses from RICAMBI

    (The photo is a "try fit," to make sure everything was going to go together properly)

    I will explain later why this was a very good idea..........
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  23. TZ 750

    TZ 750 Formula Junior

    Jul 18, 2009
    912
    #148 TZ 750, Apr 24, 2010
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    Well, we found that we had to give the second shim a lot of “encouragement” to get it to slip into place. Once in, the alignment of all five of the holes that the attachment bolt enters was problematic, and we needed (again) a “special tool” to get all those holes to line up.

    So, we took a smaller bolt, and ground it down with the tapered end
    to make an “alignment drift.”

    I had plenty of such drifts on hand, but they were
    all to long to fit, hence this tool.

    Pencil for scale..................
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  24. TZ 750

    TZ 750 Formula Junior

    Jul 18, 2009
    912
    #149 TZ 750, Apr 24, 2010
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    So, we made a (yet another) try fit,
    and made sure that we could use a bronze
    drift to ease the correct bolt into place
    eventually.........
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  25. TZ 750

    TZ 750 Formula Junior

    Jul 18, 2009
    912
    #150 TZ 750, Apr 25, 2010
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