the Breadvan is a real Ferrari !

It was JUST published, let it get thru distribution!!

There is only one Breadvan.......

 

Try these guys -> http://www.motorbooks.co.uk/notes.asp?bookid=90922

 

Ok, Thanks.

Yes only one REAL Ferrari Breadvan.

Some years a go (1998!!) I built a web site devoted to Bizzarrini and his cars. www.bizzarriniregister.com, (still working but not updated since 2005, sorry, may be one of these days....big plans but no time....). Those times, information about Bizzarrini was a bit scarce, even in Internet, so contacting owners was a great help to try to build up a register of cars and survivors.

I contacted with the Breadvan owner then, Mr. Monte Shalett, a nice guy, and he send me some great info and pictures about the restoration.

The "breadvan body" mounted on ISO Rivota chassis is a bit ugly and disproportioned copy/fake/kit car/recreation... name it as you want. Does not have any connection with the 2819GT and I was told is or was barely related with one person, "He Who Cannot Be Named" in this forum, but I'm not sure.

Car was for sale several times in some mags and web sites and asking price was around 20,000 euros.

Some pics (from eBay, I don't know is they are copyright protected....):






These pictures are very old, and today the car aspect was refined to resemble more accurately the 2819GT profile.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jojocence/3655357866/in/photostream/

Regards, Alvaro

 

I know that. I was referring to the "as new" question.

Villa d'Este this year?

 

not coppa Gallenga

28/3/65 criterium di Roma, Gallenga-Vermicino-Rocca di Papa
Edgardo Mungo/250 GT Berlinetta "Breadvan" 2819GT. n° 482. 9em.

 

I'm puzzled by the picture on the cover of the book...the Breadvan is way too small compared to the guy standing in the back. the roof is lower than his waist...it is a "photo-shopped" picture I guess...

 

if you look at the earlier picture in the workshops of Maranello and at the casa di Fiorano, the roof line does not even make it to the level of the door handle.

I also measure the picture i posted - at the highest point (top of windscreen) the car in the picture measures 7cm - a 15 inch rim measures 2.5cm, so 7/2.5=2.8 ratio multiply by 15 inches = car height 42 inches - i know this is very approximate and does not account for camera angles etc - but it gives you the idea. This is a very low car, much lower than a GTO.

 

totally agree ! I've also made the same measure ! I saw the car, and can confirm that she's very very low

You can find this picture in the Cavallino issue # 135...the boy in front gives an idea of the height..
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From memory,
GTO 62/63 height: 120cm
Breadvan height:113cm

 

very low...

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showpost.php?p=137757735&postcount=75
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mysterious midget tries to steal the bread van while everyone has their backs turned!
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When I talked with Marc at Le Mans Classic, he showed me this picture. Now I'm not sure to remember exactly, and maybe he can correct me, but it seem he said that this young boy was latter identified as Jean Rondeau (1946 - 1985), builder and winner with Jean Pierre Jaussaud at Le Mans 1980.
But J. Rondeau is born in 1946, so is 16 years old in 1962 ... not so great for a boy of 16 years ...

 

The photo with Jean Rondeau is in "Ferrari au Mans" p 56,in front of #57 SWB in 1961.

 

I remember the Breadvan having a noticeably lower roofline than the GTO and markedly less legroom, too, thanks to the engine being moved even further back on the chassis.

 

This may be a really dumb question, but I've never seen any pics of 2819GT with its original SWB body (if indeed it did have one and wasn't only a chassis). Do such pictures exist?


Onno

 

2819 GT was born as a regular SWB Berlinetta. Plenty of pix with the original body in the new "Rebel, Rebel" book of Marc Sonnery.

Marcel Massini

 

Cavallino # 135
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Back in 1962, that shape got lots of jaws dropping.
Mr. Bizzarrini always was a couple of steps in front of the rest.

Salute

 

Hi go to motorbooks i n the UK. I just ordered mine yesterday. just one man's opinion tongascrew

 

I'll do.
Thanks a lot!

 

yes, Iso Rivolta

this car is (or whas?) in Belgium

 

Yes it was built on Rivolta chassis, but Iso never built this car.
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Hello all:

Perhaps the delay in the book coming out was due to me not being smart enough to figure out the red and orange dials on this strange oven?! No the reality is that it took a year after completion to get it printed. That is how publishing can be but I am very thankful to my publisher Tim Parker.

Sorry to not have posted before was traveling without laptop and with only a dumbphone and had to take care of my mom in hospital. Nothing serious but her crankiness made sure any ego increase due to the book being out was soundly wiped out.

Anyway it was a very special day to hold my first book in my hands, particularly since I finished another book with four times more text in April of...2008 but my co author still has not finished it. I have certainly had to learn patience.

Anyway I was very happy with the way it came out.

Thank you very much for the kind words, particularly to Marcel who got the only spare copy I had in Essen. I am honored by your words Marcel I mean that!

The role of keith Bluemel should not be underestimated, despite being extremely busy he contributed a significant part of the book to his usual high standards.

Regarding the book availabilty as someone said having been printed in Hong Kong they are in a ship right now and should be at the distributors (one in the Uk and one in the US) May first.

I will not have any stock other than a handfull of copies I will hang on to. If you really want my God awful signature then bring your copy to Le Mans Classic and I will gladly oblige.

Classic & Sports car has already reviewed it, their comments will be in an upcoming issue it sounded good but fingers crossed and Veloce today will have a report out later...today.

All those who saw the book in Essen liked it and that includes the bookshops so that was a relief.

I will have the only copy I have right now at the circuit de Bresse tomorrow for the Tour Auto and at the Monaco Historic GP.

Anyway thanks again for the kind words!

best regards,

Marc

PS: The third photo: after posting one of a fat Frenchman I thought you would excuse me if I posted one of a skinny German girl
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Congrats!

I look forward to reading it!!!!

 

Thanks Jim!

best regards,

Marc