Pennzoil Ultra 5W40 | FerrariChat
Buy

Pennzoil Ultra 5W40

Discussion in 'North Midwest - USA (ND, SD, MN, IA, WI, IL)' started by Indy430, Apr 6, 2010.

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, Skimlinks, and others.

Page 1 of 2
  1. Indy430

    Indy430 Karting

    Dec 5, 2007
    210
    Indianapolis
    Full Name:
    RJ
    #1 Indy430, Apr 6, 2010
    I have a good friend that just moved to Minneapolis and is having a hard time finding this oil for his 430. Anyone in Minneapolis know where he can get this stuff? He has looked at the usual auto parts stores and target / walmart. I told him just to order a few cases of it but he is looking for some place that has it in stock.

    Thanks

    Indy
     
  2. BAM

    BAM Formula Junior

    Dec 7, 2004
    686
    MN
    Full Name:
    Jeremy
    #2 BAM, Apr 6, 2010
    Ha, I think I just talked to him. well, transfered him down to our parts dept. Did we have what he was looking for?
     
  3. Indy430

    Indy430 Karting

    Dec 5, 2007
    210
    Indianapolis
    Full Name:
    RJ
    #3 Indy430, Apr 6, 2010
    Possibly, have not talked to him today. Mike is his name.
     
  4. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Jul 19, 2008
    39,378
    Clarksville, Tennessee
    Full Name:
    Terry H Phillips
    #4 tazandjan, Apr 7, 2010
    Indy- Just going by and saw this. Walmart is the distributor for the Pennzoil Ultra, formerly Quaker State Q, and both rebadged Shell Helix Ultra.

    Taz
    Terry Phillips
     
  5. 2NA

    2NA F1 World Champ
    Consultant Owner Professional Ferrari Technician

    Dec 29, 2006
    18,221
    Twin Cities
    Full Name:
    Tim Keseluk
    #5 2NA, Apr 7, 2010
    I'm not sure I would use any of those in a car I paid money for.

    Shell has a sponsorship agreement with Ferrari. If Ferrari is recommending their products I would follow the money.
     
  6. Indy430

    Indy430 Karting

    Dec 5, 2007
    210
    Indianapolis
    Full Name:
    RJ
    #6 Indy430, Apr 7, 2010
    He checked his local wally world and they had some Ultra, but not in the 5W40 weight.
     
  7. kosmo

    kosmo Formula 3

    Oct 19, 2008
    1,569
    BIg D
    #7 kosmo, Apr 7, 2010
    Last edited: Apr 7, 2010
  8. 2NA

    2NA F1 World Champ
    Consultant Owner Professional Ferrari Technician

    Dec 29, 2006
    18,221
    Twin Cities
    Full Name:
    Tim Keseluk
    #8 2NA, Apr 7, 2010
    Last edited: Apr 7, 2010
    Marketing

    Burger King claims their fries are better than McDonalds.

    Pepsi and Coke each claim their product is better than the other.

    Every oil company claims their product is superior.

    Pennzoil and Quaker State have a "low quality" image that no amount of advertising will completely erase IMO.

    Pennzoil Ultra claims to keep your engine clean, that's what regular oil changes are for.

    Quaker State claims that nobody else is better, so what?

    Having Ferrari endorse their products must have cost them plenty.
     
  9. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Jul 19, 2008
    39,378
    Clarksville, Tennessee
    Full Name:
    Terry H Phillips
    #9 tazandjan, Apr 7, 2010
    Tim- The Pennzoil Ultra just became the recommended oil for Ferraris here in the US and there have been ads with both a California and a 599, approved by Ferrari, to advertise that fact. It really is just Shell Ultra helix repackaged, because Shell's low end oils over here are Shell badged. That also explains why it was difficult to find Quaker State Q for a while. It was out of production while the rebadging was taking place.

    I personally think the Shell/QS/Pennzoil oil foams too much, and use Valvoline synthetic 5W-40 in my car.

    What oil do you recommend?

    Taz
    Terry Phillips
     
  10. 2NA

    2NA F1 World Champ
    Consultant Owner Professional Ferrari Technician

    Dec 29, 2006
    18,221
    Twin Cities
    Full Name:
    Tim Keseluk
    #10 2NA, Apr 7, 2010
    Typically Mobil 1 (various grades) and Amsoil products where synthetics are called for.

    Castrol 20w50 in the older cars.
     
  11. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Jul 19, 2008
    39,378
    Clarksville, Tennessee
    Full Name:
    Terry H Phillips
    #11 tazandjan, Apr 7, 2010
    Tim- I like the Mobil 1 European Blend, but there have been some questions on the run of the mill Mobil 1 over the last few years. Never seemed to hurt my Z06s, though, and that was really lightweight stuff in the C6s.

    Taz
    Terry Phillips
     
  12. Feffman

    Feffman Formula Junior
    BANNED

    Oct 31, 2003
    315
    Gateway To The West
    Full Name:
    Feff
    #12 Feffman, Apr 7, 2010
    We run Total/Elf synthetics in all our cars, including the track car. Performance Oil Store (www.PerformanceOilStore.com) gives us great pricing.

    Feff
     
  13. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Jul 19, 2008
    39,378
    Clarksville, Tennessee
    Full Name:
    Terry H Phillips
    #13 tazandjan, Apr 8, 2010
    Mark- Interesting. Note the Elf competition is a semi-synthetic and their synthetic is not available in a 5W-40 or 0W-40. Which one do you use? Or did I not go far enough back?

    Found it. Total Quartz Energy 5W-40. Very good price and Elf makes very good lubricants. Would never have thought of that.

    Taz
    Terry Phillips
     
  14. Indy430

    Indy430 Karting

    Dec 5, 2007
    210
    Indianapolis
    Full Name:
    RJ
    #14 Indy430, Apr 8, 2010
    Just one quick question because I really don't know the answer. His car is a 2008 Model, still under factory warranty. Does Ferrari make a customer use a certain brand oil to comply with warranty? If he didn't, and had a big motor problem, would they check it and deny warranty claim?

    Thanks
     
  15. 2NA

    2NA F1 World Champ
    Consultant Owner Professional Ferrari Technician

    Dec 29, 2006
    18,221
    Twin Cities
    Full Name:
    Tim Keseluk
    #15 2NA, Apr 8, 2010
    As long as the oil used met the same specifications as the oil recommended in the owner's manual you would be okay.
     
  16. Indy430

    Indy430 Karting

    Dec 5, 2007
    210
    Indianapolis
    Full Name:
    RJ
    #16 Indy430, Apr 8, 2010
    Thanks
     
  17. ardenq

    ardenq Rookie

    Mar 30, 2010
    1
    #17 ardenq, Apr 27, 2010
    I found that Top Gear Autoworks keeps a stockpile of it for their customers.



     
  18. rob lay

    rob lay Administrator
    Staff Member Admin Miami 2018 Owner Social Subscribed

    Dec 1, 2000
    64,562
    Southlake, TX
    Full Name:
    Rob Lay
    #18 rob lay, Apr 27, 2010
    This is the same stuff that was required for the Ferrari Enzo at $80 a quart, I think it is fine!

    I've switched to it after I found out it was Shell Helix.
     
  19. 2NA

    2NA F1 World Champ
    Consultant Owner Professional Ferrari Technician

    Dec 29, 2006
    18,221
    Twin Cities
    Full Name:
    Tim Keseluk
    #19 2NA, Apr 27, 2010
    WTF?
     
  20. rob lay

    rob lay Administrator
    Staff Member Admin Miami 2018 Owner Social Subscribed

    Dec 1, 2000
    64,562
    Southlake, TX
    Full Name:
    Rob Lay
    #20 rob lay, Apr 27, 2010
    exactly! I think it only lasted a couple years before prices came down and more widespread release, but it was REQUIRED for the Enzo and that's how much it was.
     
  21. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
    Honorary Owner

    Oct 23, 2002
    32,118
    Full Name:
    Jim Glickenhaus
    #21 Napolis, Apr 27, 2010
    Rob

    It's not the same stuff

    Enzo oil is 10W-60 and is still available.

    This is 430/8C oil.

    So far as I know 10W-60 is recommended for 430 Challenge use.

    We use 10W-60 in P 4/5 and Dino Competizione.
     
  22. rob lay

    rob lay Administrator
    Staff Member Admin Miami 2018 Owner Social Subscribed

    Dec 1, 2000
    64,562
    Southlake, TX
    Full Name:
    Rob Lay
    #22 rob lay, Apr 27, 2010
    so same stuff except for the weight? is the 10w-60 available under the QS/Pennzoil name or only under Shell?
     
  23. BAM

    BAM Formula Junior

    Dec 7, 2004
    686
    MN
    Full Name:
    Jeremy
    #23 BAM, Apr 27, 2010
    super dave?
     
  24. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
    Honorary Owner

    Oct 23, 2002
    32,118
    Full Name:
    Jim Glickenhaus
    #24 Napolis, Apr 27, 2010
    Our's is labled "Shell" and comes in 5 gallon pails. Not sure if it's more than weight but it held up for 4 hours of hard track use on the Bahrain F1 track on a 100+F degree day.

    (Brake Pads did also but just)
     
  25. kosmo

    kosmo Formula 3

    Oct 19, 2008
    1,569
    BIg D
    #25 kosmo, Apr 27, 2010
    Jim I'm curious, but what kind of oil temps did you experience? tks
     
Page 1 of 2

Share This Page