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my engine is out ! :D

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  1. lyrm

    lyrm Karting

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    #1 lyrm, Jun 4, 2010
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    only in 5 hours,is for the service 40.000 km´s. I think is very easy engine , and very pretty too when is out. the people that know of this, can say me if all is correct or if I have some error please ?

    I want change:

    -timing belt and tensioners
    -clutch (only disc and bearing) because time ago I check the plate presure and I think is in very good condition, my car is single disc
    -plugs
    -exterior belts
    -fuel filter
    -air filter
    -oil filter
    -oil (agip 15w40)
    -termostat
    -camshaft seals
    -water
    and I think I don´t need change more parts


    thanks ! :D
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  2. jmiff348

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    Nice work! You might want to adjust the valves while the engine is out. I think you've covered all the other important stuff in your list. Do keep the pictures coming as the work progresses! :)
     
  3. jmiff348

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    Just one more thought here: based on your exhaust, it looks like you have a later model 348 so it probably has the plastic cam belt shroud pieces (5 parts in total). If you can find the aluminum pieces from earlier models, you won't ever have to worry about the plastic pieces breaking the next time they are removed for timing belt inspection/replacement.
     
  4. lyrm

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    #4 lyrm, Jun 4, 2010
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    you say this piece? if is it, is aluminium, any problem then? thanks for your help, is very important for me because is the first time that I´m working in one ferrari, is for it is my ferrari
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  5. lyrm

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    #5 lyrm, Jun 4, 2010
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    the other same piece equal not is in great condition I think, I don´t have one now, and I´m sad for this because the 21 of jun is my birtday and I wanted it for this day :(, now, I can´t buy one new because the shipping for here (canary islands, spain) is very slow from italy or us :(

    is possible polish it and install this some days while waiting for reciver one new ? I think that I can change it with the engine inside, I think not is very dificult

    or is one risk ?
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  6. lyrm

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    you know if is very dificult adjust the valves in this car ? I need some special tool ?


    I´m thinking in this.....

    I don´t like make much questions but I don´t know much of this cars :(

    is idraulic lifters? , rokers? or adjustable badjes suplements ?

    sorry for a lot off questions friend and thanks for your help!
     
  7. jmiff348

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    No. I believe this is the part (not sure what it's called) that helps to keep the timing belt from jumping off of the cam roller(s). The shrouds are are the thick plastic pieces that had to be removed to expose the timing belt and the rollers (and this part). Based on the photos above, you already removed 3 of those plastic shrouds (covers). The other 2 pieces can only be removed after the timing belt is removed.
     
  8. jmiff348

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    Someone with more technical expertise will need to help answer this question. Sorry...
     
  9. jmiff348

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    Personally I would not advise trying to change this after you put the engine back in the car. There is a risk of something breaking (like those plastic shrouds/covers I mentioned earlier) and falling into the belt area. The result could be catastrophic. I also believe that these pieces should be reinstalled using a gap tool (like a spark plug gap tool), but I don't know what that the specs are. Hopefully 2NA, Ernie, Plugzit, FBB (and/or others) can be of more technical asistance here...
     
  10. plugzit

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    Solid lifters with discs of various sizes for adjustment. Check the clearances with a feeler guage. Often, they're still in spec. Do it with the cam belt still on so you don't bend anything as you turn the cams. You should probably buy one of those service manuals on disc for help on this. If you haven't timed cams before, you'll probably want to hire somebody with experience for that. Congrats on having the balls to DIY and good luck!
     
  11. jmiff348

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    #11 jmiff348, Jun 4, 2010
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    This is the timing belt shroud (circled in red). The other 2 pieces (black plastic) are still bolted to your engine, behind the timing belt. (I didn't catch this earlier, as I was on my iphone.). The older models had aluminum pieces here.
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  12. 50hdmc

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    ..consider changing all the hoses to silicone....have the alternator rebuilt...plenty of info available if you search a little on this site.
     
  13. dlynes

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    id love to see more pictures, especially of the body pulled off the car
     
  14. rbellezza

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    Remember to check the water pump .... and how is the condition of the timing belt after how many miles?
     
  15. lyrm

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    aaaaa!!! ok ok, the timing belts covers, yes, the mine are the plastic, is one problem ? is better aluminium covers?
     
  16. lyrm

    lyrm Karting

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    no problem friend! ;)
     
  17. lyrm

    lyrm Karting

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    yes yes, I think too the timing covers is impossible change it with the engine inside...I´m¨thinking in the small parts
     
  18. lyrm

    lyrm Karting

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    yes yes, I understand now, then, you think my engine is one gen2 model? , I never know what is my car because is one very very rare model, anybody know if is one gen2 or gen1 model, for this reason I say at the all people that is one hybrid model ahahhaha

    I think that now. I can´t wait for buy ones, I think is better in the next service
     
  19. lyrm

    lyrm Karting

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    yes! weeks ago I saw one post where one guy rebuilt his alternator in one service too, but I think in my case is different for various reasons I believe..
    -the alternator is in one very good zone if after I need repair it, I think not is any problem make this work.
    - the alternator is just the same alternator of celicas (I have 7 celicas) and if I have some problem with this I only need change the compelte alternator because I have lot off in great conditions

    however,now, that you say me, I will open it and check, I think too now, that the engine is out, is only 30-60 minutes.

    and the silicone hoses is in progress yet but in black, because I don´t like in blue or red :D

    thanks for you answer!!
     
  20. lyrm

    lyrm Karting

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    no problem, after, (because now I´m make one swap engine in other car) in the evning I will take various pics ;)
     
  21. lyrm

    lyrm Karting

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    for check the water pump exist some metod in the workshop manual or other guide? I can see the water pump in very good condition, but only for the exterior, I don´t know yet if the pulley of the waterpump have clearance because I don´t removed the timing belt yet, ( I will make it in the evning) I see the engine always have very good water because all the hoses radiator etc is in very very good conditions and very clear, but I don´t know what water have it, I´m think in put toyota water, I´m sure this water is very very good water too.

    the timing belt has 40.000 kilometers and is in very BAD conditions, in the evning I will take pic and show you too.
     
  22. ricardo teixeira

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    Sacando el tuyo y yo acabando de recolocar el mio.

    Acuerda te de lavar el motor con desengrasante primero e despues con agua de alta pression.

    Yo protegi las partes electricas antes.

    Si entendes un poco de Portugues, mira mi pagina en

    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=281708
     
  23. lyrm

    lyrm Karting

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    muy interesante!!

    gracias!! miraré el post con detalle :D
     
  24. AceMaster

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    I didn't see gear oil on your list, so make sure you change that too.

    I would strongly recommend Redline 75W90NS.

    Great job so far, by the way :)
     
  25. rbellezza

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    If the water pump has never been changed, I would replace it, no matter how good it looks. When the timing belt is in very bad conditions, odds are the water pump it's in a similar situation. Please post the pics of the belt ....
     

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