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  1. carlosgdias

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    That pic was shot near the pool at Hotel Cala di Volpe (in the background) near Capriccioli, Sardegna.
     
  2. joe sackey

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    Thank you Carlo for ID'ing the shoot location. I think a fair amount of testing was done on the island of Sardinia.
     
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    Thanks for pointing this out. So these are all liveries of the same car?
     
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    I have not seen the magazine for some time. It might have been in Auto Hebdo's Ferrari 'annual' magazine.

    One observation on the intro F40 picture car (first complete example) the inside of the two rear air inlets were painted red. This could be seen in the rear view of the car. One inlet on the driver's side is a smaller rectangle and the one on the passenger side is square.
    Also the picture car appears to wear a 'F40' decal on the rear spoiler rather than an impression in the spoiler that was featured on later cars.
    One interesting feature on 73015 are 3 vents molded in the underside of the rear bodywork behind both rear tires and also a third row of vents on the underside below where the exhaust exits the rear bodywork.
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    #56 joe sackey, Jun 10, 2010
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    Great observations.

    By the way do you have any knowledge of which of the Sultan's F40s was originally a prototype?
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    Yes.
    1992 completely red
    1993 red/white then blue/white
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    Sorry Joe nothing on which of the Sultan's F40's was originally a prototype. You should do a 'where are they now' with an updated history on each of the prototype serial numbers.

    Ferrari had an interested guest when 73015 was shown at Fiorano. It was Clay Regazzoni who saw the new F40 with Michale Alboreto present there as well. There was a unplated 288 GTO brought out for comparison to.
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    Clay ended up having the factory make him a 'hands-controlled' F40, chassis number 85594 I believe.
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    Whilst not an official factory prototype another F40 one-off is the F40 Valeo. This car, a very early chassis number 79883 was another “Agnelli Speciale” built specially for FIAT boss Gianni Agnelli and was fitted with a Valeo electronic clutch system which had been developed and proven in the Lancia Delta Integrale rally cars. Valeo uses the normal gear lever which, when moved, sends signals to a master control unit and then to the clutch actuator motor which engages or disengages the clutch in less than 100 milliseconds. Built-in safety features stop the car being started in gear and prevent the driver selecting too high a gear or too low.

    Other personal touches to this Agnelli F40 were the spun aluminum gear knob, a cigarette lighter and the owner’s leather document pouch, which was embossed with the initials “G.A.” Inside, the seats were trimmed with black nomex, with a red lumbar support on the driver’s seat. The master control unit of the Valeo system is mounted on the firewall behind the passenger seat above the Ferrari engine management unit. Long a rumor, the existence of this car was made public in an article by Keith Bluemel in Cavallino magazine.

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    The 'picture car' was complete with mirrors and the F40 decal on the side of the rear spoiler. There was no F40 name on the spoiler for 73015 also it had the extra vertical painted piece of trim (perhaps from running test equipment) mounted on the body below the right side tail lights.
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    Faboulus thread Joe!

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    #66 joe sackey, Jun 16, 2010
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    Thanks Caley.

    You've probably already seen images of the formation of the car's bodywork prior to production of the running prototypes.
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    The finished rear clip with four vents and the F40 model 'imprint' raises the question of who manufactured the prototype 5 vent 'no name' pieces. Probably more than 8 early rear clips were built up considering spares and possible damage once installed.
    Not sure of the exact time line but Pininfarina was already experimenting with tape to cover the 5th rear vent hole and some of the louvers on the back window regarding air flow. This was on the first complete running car that was not a model.
    Earlier they built up a version with no rear deck spoiler. Rather there was a spoiler that curved out mounted the width of the rear body work at it's lowest edge. However the tall rear spoiler was the effective way they chose to deal with the airflow as it left the back of the car. Cooling also played a big role in the surface shape of the F40 and the effectiveness of the many inlets and outlets in the bodywork.
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    Great points, and clearly the items shown are pre-production completed versions, but note that Fiocco lists its work for Ferrari on the F40 bodies as dating from 1987 on.
     
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    Fiat gave the go ahead for the 'Le Mans' project as it was know July 1986. The project went from idea to running car presented to the press July 21 1987.
    This was a very compressed development period regarding the F40 with typical new cars of that era developed over a 3 - 4 year period by the factory. However the 'Le Mans' project was developed in the spirit of the old days when new racing models were introduced yearly. The inspiration for the Le Mans was a much older but similar Ferrari in concept the 250 LM introduced in 1963. Thus the 'Le Mans' project name. That (250 LM) model itself owed much to the earlier 250P.
    The engine development work by 1986 had already been completed using the 288 GTO Evolution car as a basis for the new project. The body design and engineering consumed much of the development time.
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    Thanks C! You know your F40 prototypes, that's for sure.
     
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    Any info on the rear tire widths on the prototype? Were they widened for production?
     
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    The Pirelli P Zero tire specs were fronts- 245/40 ZR 17 and rears- 335/35 ZR 17. These specs didn't change.
    The wheels used were 8" for the fronts and 13" for the rears.
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