Really?????

Face it, most of the guys that want and can afford a Ferrari will do so without diddling about on a thread in Ferrari chat. Most of the people who come on a web site talking about owning a Ferrari are only talkers and could never afford one let alone maintain one. This guy (iowa355) is just a troll and knows nothing about Ferraris. He is one of those guys with more money than Ferrari brains. He talks on other threads about them being a piece of crap. Sure they are a piece of crap when a guy like him buys one, drives the piss out of it for years and does no preventative maintenance on them. Yep then we have a peace of crap and they sell for what his 355 sold for.....cheap cheap cheap!

If the going price for a 348 or 355 was around $15,000 then there would still be procrastinators on here saying that they will wait until they hit under $10,000 before they buy one. Yep Ferrari chat is full of procrastinators. More than many could ever imagine. If we could all see the other end of someone’s keyboard then half of these idiots would never post as the trailers, basement apts. and college dorms would be too easily recognizable.

Time is passing everyday and we get older, those who know what a Ferrari really is already own one or once making up their mind will buy one within a few months and enjoy a truly amazing car without procrastinating about it for years and years. I’m sure the same procrastinators are still looking for the perfect wife that gets up in the morning and brings breakfast to them while the shower warms up. Yep keep waiting boys and one day you may own a Ferrari but there won’t be any oil left. Then they will be free for the taking.
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Damn- too late again !
Honestly (sic) Jon, lots of us feel your frustration. My F car-buying equity is presently tied up in real estate devalued by 1/2. Of course I'm still writing checks to the local yocals based on long gone, probably not to be seen again, valuations' At least you have an asset you can use and enjoy not just a playground for the local wildlife!
Dino's concerns seem valid to me. If you were up here last weekend, you'd have found the ubber-rich at the 'Ideas Fest' livin' large, partying up big time, with corporate aircraft stacked 6 deep at the airport. Heck, you could even watch some of it on TV if you had the stomach for it. The $'s didn't just 'evaporate' from your wallet and mine, they're being 're-positioned' ! Still most folks know a con when they see it, so hold on a bit and you'll get a 'realistic' price for your 348 ( wheels and all ), and if not, well........ we've all gotta have an escape plan. Mine's parked just a little south of you. Still dreamin', 'erto

 

This is personally my favorite post that I've ever seen anywhere. So true. Of course, I'm one of the poor slobs on Fchat that risked it all to own a 355, and I'm still poor but I have everything I've always wanted. (Except the wife/breakfast thingy)

 

no chance. 3 yrs ago my equally nice and upgraded low milage, no story 1995 SPIDER barely went for 45k! i hate to say it here but a 348 is simply a used car. and btw, aftermarket mods might be fun but are worthless when trying to sell. this nice 348 will go when the price is right and i would guess that will be in the low 30's.

 

John, hang in there someone will buy it.

For the prospective buyer: I have dealt with John buying the SS seats from him. The transaction and pre/post sale communication couldn't have been better. He's a stand up guy and I would buy those brakes from him any day....

(you can have my stock wheels and brakes as well!!!)

Good luck John.

Kai

 

Try putting it in the Dupont Registry , I think for $249 the add with a nice clossy picture (and perhaps more on thier website) the add run's until it sell's. Almost all high end stuff or collectible's on there , so should be fewer low end tire kicker's.

 

If it helps, I paid almost 50k for mine about a year ago. Maybe I overpaid. Another guy paid a little over 50 also last year. Both Spiders. Can't speak for his car, but I consider mine to be in top condition. 14k miles with 3 year old major service. OEM wheels with XOST.....

Love the looks of your car. But maybe you should sell your wheels seperately and put a cheap set of OEM's on your car. For that matter, maybe you could sell the Tubi and put a stock exhaust back on. Seems silly, but you may end up better off that way. Who knows.

Better yet, find a way to keep it. Then look back in 20 years and thank god you didn't get your price!!!

All the best, Lou

 

With those deductions I think you are at 13K not 20K

 

Not a clue.

 

explain please

 

Now there's a relevant post!

 

[joke]So what you guys are telling me, is that my current bid of $26K, isn't going to win. Darn.[/joke]

 

John,

The car will sell, it is just going to take a little longer these days.
It's only been on ebay a short time, give it some more time. The right buyer will come along.

 

Simple very high 30's maybe but low 30's ...get real . All you Nay Sayer's (so called experts) are just kicking yourself in the A$$ by devaluing the model as well as the mark. If you sold your 355 too cheap that's too bad but it was your decision, feeling guilty and want to make yourself feel better? Sure the economy sucks but if you want a piece of crap then maybe your low 30's dollars belong in a Honda civic not a Ferrari.
If any of you experts out there are serious then make an offer, what ever it is...until then it's just a bunch of talk. Put your money where your keyboard is. Hey, don't tell me about taking a hit, I just lost over $200K cash on my house after it was on the market for 14 months.

 

Your explanation is posted above.

 

Bingo Chris. Geez! I can't believe some of these ridiculous posts by either trolls, phony so called owners or 17 year old wannabees.

 

correct, correct and correct.

 

John, here's a suggestion if you have already done so. You prefer to deal with buyers via phone versus e-mail, but not all serious buyers will want to do this (at least initially). Make a detailed data sheet about the car that you can send to prospective buyers--list everything that makes your car better than a '92 348 as it came off of the line. I'm not a member of the brotherhood, and they would know better than I, but some possible things I can think of:

1) Provide details about the A/C upgrade. Sell it--say if you buy a stock 348 you'll have to replace the compressor when your original refrigerant is gone (if this is true).

2) If the alternator isn't a Delco (I think I have that correct) sell that.

3) List the exact model of the StopTech brakes (I assume that they at ST40's). Talk about the floating rotors and whether the brake fluid has been upgraded. How much pad life is left? Check with StopTech--are there different compound pads available?

4) Talk about the alarm/keyless entry system. Did the 348 originally come with one? Even if it did, what does the Viper add or do better?

5) Since yours is before a SS, stress how the hyperflow cats and Tubi should have increased the horsepower to at least the level of newer models (if likely).

6) Do the Ronal Wheels fix the offset issue that Ferrari first addressed with the SS? If they did, sell that.

7) Show pictures of the stereo and provide details (i.e. speaker brands, sizes, upgraded wiring, details about the amp, etc.).

8) If any of the Hill stuff has an advantage over appearance (e.g. I don't know what a Hill "slick shift" gate is--make me think that I need to have it).

9) If there is any kind of reasonable tread left on the tires, give the tread depth measurement.

10) Was it "just a major" or was other stuff done? Any details that are a plus should be listed.

11) Give a few details about what has happened with service since 2006. I think stressing who did it is fine, but what has happened since?

12) Does the car leak anything or is it dry underneath--if dry, stress it.

13) Is there a YouTube link to a 348 with a Tubi--if so, list it.

14) Detail exactly why the hyperflow cats are important (I think I know, and I've been reading, but I'm not sure).

15) Some buyers are going to want a PPI. Figure that out for them (meaning, know where you are willing to take the car, and contact that shop and find out what they would charge for a PPI.) Get the cost on a compression and leakdown, even if you don't list it initially. If you are willing to drive the car to the shop (as opposed to requiring that it get flat bedded)--sell that.

And so on. Serious buyers may care about some or all of the above stuff. Suggest that you can send the sheet and then say further discussions need to occur by phone. Everyone may not agree, but the above are things that I would value.

Scotty

 

my car was a 348 not a 355 and i sold it thru ferrarichat. the $45k i got for it in 2007 was what it was worth because that was the most anyone was willing to pay for it. i have no guilt or regrets and im just trying to help you to do same. if your not happy with what the market will bring for your car just keep it. it looks very nice.

 

I think that unless the buyer is a complete dummy, he will be asking these questions, well most of them. IE I think everyone knows the hill shift gate advantage. I also think that everyone knows that the only think that does not leak oil on a Ferrari are the tires. lol

 

Well, truth be told, when I bought my Ferrari (to reward myself for my 40th ) all I knew is that I wanted a 348.

I had no clue what questions to ask specific to the 348 other than any normal questions I would ask when buying a used car.

I think Scotty's list is great for a first time buyer.

I didn't find Fchat until after I bought the car. Otherwise I very well would own Bushwackers car now...

Kai

 

GerryD: I'm a first time 348 buyer, but not a first time Ferrari buyer. I can talk anyone's ears off about 360 issues. I've designed and made my own skid plates (even made molds to shape the HMWP to conform better to the bumper). Used to swap my brake pads out for every track day and so on. I am not a newbie, a poser, etc. (except new to possible 348 ownership).

So truthfully I do not know the advantage of the Hill shift gate. I am going to do a search on it now, but that is part of the point of the list I made. John's car isn't selling readily at the price he likes, so if he can do some legwork for the buyers, it will make it more enticing to more folks.

 

Holy crap!! I have been selling my Ferrari's for 25 years, and I don't mind answering questions, but as a general rule every time I run across a plethora of nimrod questions, they are never a real buyer..... NEVER!

 

Bushwhaker, don't shoot, but this is just my take, and you know I love your car, and we talked on the phone a while ago about it.

The bottom line in MY humble opinion only is that the fact that it is a "B" is going to make it a little harder. Most 348 buyers want either a Targa or a full Ragtop In another words, if you can't afford a 355, at least I can afford a 348 Spider. This is further supported by how many 355 guys with "B"'s that I know would LOVE to have a 355 GTS.

I am typically a "Stock Ferrari Guy" but your Ronal wheels still look awesome to me, but maybe snatch a set of stock ones from Ebay and tell the buyer they can pick. Then sell the other set.

You will find a buyer, it's just that the market sucks right now. The USA is falling apart and most people aren't looking to buy a Ferrari this year, much less a 348, much less a 348 B.

Be patient and if the bullsh!t offers keep coming, keep the bloody thing, it looks fantastic man.

Just my.02

MB

 

HUH???? Maybe I just appreciate a stiff well handling chassis , over an open top (then again on days that nice , I'd rather ride a bike. But just WHAT is th point of a topless sprotscar? Other than the old Can Am or other race cars designed by rules to be open top , give me a nice tight hardtop!