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I had no idea

Discussion in '308/328' started by shmark, Jul 21, 2010.

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  1. shmark

    shmark F1 Rookie

    Oct 31, 2003
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    Apparently sometime back in March 1999 I purchased a 1985 Ferrari 380 with unknown mileage.






    at least that's what my brand-new #%!#$^!!$@! Georgia title says! Unbelievable. I handed them a properly signed Texas title with documented mileage, correct model designation with the purchase date listed as 6/1/2010 and this is what I get back. So I went to the title office this afternoon to request that it be corrected. "Sir they got that information from the Texas title so it must be correct." I said (politely) that that wasn't possible and can I please get it corrected. Apparently no one dares ask for corrections and suddenly I was a big irritant. "They will have to research it with Texas and call you back." At least she took the information and copied the title. I suppose now I'll have to keep checking back every couple of days.

    And my faith in government ability to handle complex issues just keeps going down and down.....
     
  2. stevel48

    stevel48 Formula 3

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    #2 stevel48, Jul 21, 2010
    Last edited: Jul 21, 2010
    Preach!

    I have owned my car for 1 month and it's not registered because Woodside screwed it up. It might, just might have plates at the end of the week.

    I've driven my 1st Ferrari once!
     
  3. JohnnyS

    JohnnyS F1 World Champ
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    Government workers........enough said. That is why I always keep a copy of the signed title.

    BTW, an 85' 380 is really rare, never seen one. I'll bet you can sell it on ebay for a lot of money!:D
     
  4. thecarreaper

    thecarreaper F1 World Champ
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    hi, been here in Georgia for years. they do not and will not carry over declared miles on most cars over 5-7 years old, that do not have liens on them. they also do not require Titles on cars made before 1985, but they have to give you a title if you surrender one for an older car. Miles always come back *exempt*.

    i photograph, and copy my titles before i give them to the GA DMV, for proof of miles later when i sell off a car.
     
  5. shmark

    shmark F1 Rookie

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    I've been in GA all my life, owned a number of older Porsches and never had a problem with a title until now. My 1983 928 title correctly lists date of purchase, model and miles so this 1985 380 sure should too. I will get it corrected, but this is going to be like pulling teeth now that it's been through the system once.
     
  6. Jedi

    Jedi Moderator
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    The Ferrari 380 in fact was amazing for its day - unbelievably efficient, due to that
    unique engine design which displaces 3.8 liters but with ZERO cylinders. Rare indeed!!

    I hear they were REALLY quiet when running....

    :D

    Jedi
     
  7. GrayTA

    GrayTA F1 World Champ
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    Why am I not surprised at stuff like this???


    PDG
     
  8. AHudson

    AHudson F1 Rookie
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    #8 AHudson, Jul 21, 2010
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    The 380 part should be easily repaired. The mileage, probably not going to happen.

    Now states have gotten sued or participate in enough suits to not do anything but 'exempt' miles on cars over 10 years old. At least that's how it is here.

    Your bill of sale should say 'correct' miles on the car, so that should support it historically, regardless of the silly 'exempt' default on the title.
     
  9. Darolls

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    A very rare engine indeed! I wouldn't worry about it.............
     
  10. PV Dirk

    PV Dirk F1 Veteran

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    Didn't that operate like the new Dyson fan? Moving air with no moving parts? Or am I thinking of a different vehicle?
     
  11. WaltP

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    Mark, did you go to the office down near the airport? They usually but not always can help. The lines move slow down there.
     
  12. bpu699

    bpu699 F1 World Champ
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    Wisconsin wouldn't put a mileage on the ferrari registration/title when I registered it either. "If its over 15 years old, we don't list mileage..."
     
  13. shmark

    shmark F1 Rookie

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    Usually the folks in the east Cobb office are very helpful, maybe this was just a bad day. In any case hopefully I can get it corrected...maybe not the mileage but I will try. If nothing else I know I own the only Ferrari 380 ever made!
     
  14. phrogs

    phrogs F1 Veteran
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    North Carolina and Michign also do not put the mileage on the title.

    kinda makes all that BS about original mileage hard to prove.

    so why is it there if they feel the need to leave it blank or N/A after a car is so old.

    its BS but what are you going to do?
     
  15. sammyb

    sammyb Formula 3

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    Always scan the title of the title when you purchase and retain a copy to help correct issues. In Washington State, the county licensing offices (and the privately operated franchises) are supposed to show all the information on the registration prior to signing (and title transfer) to ensure everything is correct.

    I've had titles that had incorrect VINs, incorrect years (like my Ferrari GT4), but usually it's no big deal if it is a glaring issue on the old title. As for the mileage, that's why records are important. Many states now don't include miles or won't allow out-of-state older cars to have actual miles.

    And while it's easy to rip on government workers, my wife and I ran into a friend of ours who is a top attorney for the WA Secretary of State while we were eating lunch. We asked him to join us. He graciously declined showing he had a big stack of paper in his hand. He worked through lunch reading documents that were thrown on him due to the increase in work and decrease in funding/staff. (All government workers should be like Jeff -- he's smart, fair, honest, and doesn't let his personal politics interfere with the quality and degree of his efforts.)
     
  16. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Carreaper is correct, you should have color copied your old Title before turning it over.

    Scary stuff.....good luck!!
     
  17. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

    Dr Tommy Cosgrove Three Time F1 World Champ
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    And your president wants THEM to be responsible for your healthcare too
     
  18. AHudson

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    Whoa. Dr. Tommy brings a whole new (and frighteningly accurate) level of concern.
     
  19. Paul_308

    Paul_308 Formula 3

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    When bureaucracy assumes a job, the person doing that job becomes anonymous behind a wall- assuming no responsibility to the payer of their wage/benefits. Be appreciative if you've found someone to talk to.

    Voting properly is only chance you have to influence and/or complain about the size and demeanor of your government, local, state or federal.
     
  20. fgcfire8

    fgcfire8 Formula Junior

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    I sent wife to get title and plates for a Bertone x1/9 she brought back a VA title that said Toyota. Not sure how DMV got there lol. I had copy of old title and went to DMV with copy and explanation that the VIN was for Italian not Jap car and finally got it straight.
     
  21. MBFerrari

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    VA lists my car as a FERRARA

    Nice. Governement hard at work...or hardly working. One of those.

    MB
     
  22. DGS

    DGS Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Well, what do you expect from the DVM? ;)

    DAM: Mothers against Dislexia :D

    Yes, there's a real thing called dislexia.

    But rather than calling it a shortcoming and giving people the motivation to try harder,
    society calls it a handicap, and gives people an excuse to give up without trying ...
    ... and a government job.

    We're building the welfare state, one ruined child at a time.


    Well, okay, outside the P&R rant arena ...

    It's depressing how many young people in the US have never heard of Alfa Romeo.

    And just try asking your insurance agent about the rates on a "wrecks". (WRX). :p
     

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