Hi All, I now know from driving the 360 in and out of sport mode that I prefer it in however cannot find any definitive information on what actually changes in the setup of the gearing, suspension, ASR, etc. Gearchanges are more rapid and the car feels more alert with more play before the driver aides kick in, but does anyone have any information on the specific setup changes? Thanks, Marc
on my 360M, the suspension firms up and ASR becomes less intrusive to allow the rear wheel to drift a little.
Assuming you have an F1 equipped car, put the car in Sport mode, get on the highway and shift at over 7500 RPM and you'll experience a very different, and much faster, shift time. Yes, as Ray says, the suspension definitely firms up.... so much so, my wife wouldn't ride in my 360 if Sport Mode was on
The gear changes are much quicker in sport mode at higher revs and changedowns are much quicker over 5,500 rpm. I have never really noticed the suspension being that much firmer. Other than that, thats about it!
Definitely stiffer suspension. Try it where the highway is bumpy from truck traffic. Switch from one to the other and you will notice the difference. You can feel the difference in the corners too but you have to be an experienced driver to tell the difference (lots of race driving).
I remember someone here said that there are metal particles in the shock absorber fluid, which firms up the suspension when a electric current is applied... The ASR in modern cars use speed sensors in each wheel to sense any lost of traction. longitudinal and lateral G sensor are used to sense if any understeer/oversteer. It can apply braking to the individual wheel to correct understeer/oversteer. I don't thing the 360 can do all that, it can only retard the throttle to reduce wheel drift.
My understanding of SPORT MODE is this: 1) ASR controlling any traction loss is a tad less resonsive. (So for those with a heavier foot, or are not familiar with handing a car that could crank out some oversteer.......... probably this single item may want you to keep it off) 2) Shocks tighten up a bit 3) Shifting (F1) is quicker with less slip .......I've switched 100% to Sport Mode as I much prefer the overall ride, how the car reacts, and the F1 shifting. (And have got to believe with the F1 cars you're clutch life would be extended somewhat due to less slippage). BobR
Thanks for the responses. Had not considered that in sport mode the clutch life might be extended - an added bargain!! Do fellow F1 drivers ease off the gas when shifting up? I do not currently, more fun.
No on the uplift........ In-fact just keep it at a constant. (I think if you had a BMW with SMG they recommend that, but definately not with the Ferrari F1).
When you turn the sport mode on a light comes on on the dash and your brain goes in to "i'm a race driver mode" Russell
Maybe I missed something - but what happens if you are a 3 pedal person in sport mode - everything but the F1 clutch stuff, right?
sport shift at high rpm in a F1 reminds me of a sport bike. I always drive in sport mode. and I always turn the ASR off. Traction control in these cars sucks. Its almost killed me. When I want a high slip angle pulling into traffic, the last thing I want is the power clipped.
I had not used the sport mode till I read this thread...Gave it shot over the weekend and I must agree with the tranny wanting to fly out of the car description...It's violent and much faster......I like it.
Do fellow F1 drivers ease off the gas when shifting up? I do not currently, more fun.[/QUOTE] When i first got my 360 F1, i felt the need to ease off the gas a bit before shifting... it lessened jerking at each gear change... however after i had my clutch changed with the new PIS settings, the shifting is fabulous and no need to ease my foot off the gas! I drive in Sport mode all the time, and keep ASR on, unless i feel like spinning or sliding from time to time... by the way when my wife is with me is the only time i shift the Sport mode off take care
What about the throttle pedal sensitivity- is it quickened up in sport mode being as it's electronic/drive by wire throttle? I believe the BMW M5 does this when the sport mode is selected...i.e. press throttle 1/2 way quickly and maybe you get more than 1/2 throttle, etc...
"You mean you have to actually put it in 'Sport' mode, isn't that kinda redundant on a Ferrari?" was the comment of my buddies when I took him for a ride... Sport mode is "always on" in mine. Hunter
I agree with you. The first gear is completely useless with sport mode on. It seems to make the rear so stiff that is not good for weight transfer off the line. I have brand new Michelin Pilot Sport tires, they got zero traction in first gear. Even if car is already at rolling speed at 20mph, it rear tire will spin if I go WOT. This is my "first" and "only" time run attempt for the 360 using dynolicious Iphone application before I had Titanium exhaust installed, sport mode on, ASR off. Now I am more familiar with the car, I am fairly confident that I could pull a 4~4.2sec with the sport mode "off". Image Unavailable, Please Login
I think the normal/default mode for the 360 F1 should be Sport or at least "ASR off." The car is much more fun to drive in either Sport or ASR off. It should be optional to make the car boring, rather than optional to make it fun. I was told that driving the car in Sport mode increases clutch life 30% in the F1 cars. I can easily see why. In normal (ASR on) I can feel the clutch slipping a bit to keep the wheels from spinning. In Sport or ASR off, the clutch engages much faster. Wife doesn't like it that much, but so what. If I wanted a cruiser, I would have bought something else.
I was told that if you lay off the gas when you shift the F1 it will increase the clutch life exponentially... To the point that it's best practice to not be pushing the gas at all when you shift. take that fwiw. -M
I don't own an F1 but have driven several and I never let up on the throttle, just keep even throttle and let the computers do the work- it seems to be the smoothest shift that way. In fact, I could see if you quickly let up on the gas during a shift how that could potentially mess up the computer's timing and cause more harm than just keeping throttle even. I will add all the cars I drove were newer than a 360 generation F1, so this COULD be the case with the 355/360 and not the newer cars, but I doubt it. I would do whatever the owner's manual calls for...
You see, that makes complete, intuitive sense to me, and then I was told that babying the car was bad for it and that it should be driven hard. WTF do I know. Makes sense for the motor, but not for the clutch. I haven't tried ASR, Sport or Auto since getting my spider in March. The car drives so different from all the american muscle I grew up with that I'm enjoying getting the hang of it the way I recieved it. At first it was even hard cornering smoothly without oscillations. Also had a good time getting used to the scan. I'm a former pilot and am used to having a good scan, or used to be. But I found this car to be difficult to drive hard and still maintain perfect situational awareness. It's been a challenge. Now the next time I get in the car I'm trying sport. Can I have the AUTO button removed ?
