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The best modifications for the 348

Discussion in '348/355' started by marc556, Aug 24, 2010.

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  1. Ingenere

    Ingenere F1 Veteran Owner Silver Subscribed

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    I am sorry for your friend, but there is no way that the belts contributed to the damage.
     
  2. TheOnlyest

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    This is by FAR and away the stupidest thing ive ever heard! TOO MANY bad memories?? I sure hope every part on your current car lasts FOREVER!!
    It really is moronic nonsense like this that makes me so much less excited to check into F-Chat as much as I used too.

    Sure its humiliating to be broken on the side of the road in your Ferrari... but its still a CAR!!


     
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  3. Kaivball

    Kaivball Three Time F1 World Champ Owner

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    He he. "Too many"?? Exactly, one event, how is that too many?

    Kai
     
  4. fatbillybob

    fatbillybob Two Time F1 World Champ Consultant Owner

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    How would people like to hear about the Front windshiled that came off my 944 P-bug? Or the tranny that died at 12,010 miles just after the 12,000mil warranty on my P-bug 928? I hate those things.
     
  5. ndpendant

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    Actually it was found to be the largest reason for his injury. here is a link to a racing belt system, it explains some of the installation rationale, frontal and rollover mechanics, with and without hans devices, seats, headrests etc.

    http://www.schrothracing.com/sdocs/2009_Competition_Instructions.pdf

    The reason i brought it up, is that in some states, modifying the OEM seatbelts is not DOT approved and may void your insurance coverage in the event of an injury from an accident.
    Ive seen what happens up close and personal, just hope it doesnt happen to anyone else.
    nd
     
  6. Kaivball

    Kaivball Three Time F1 World Champ Owner

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    Ok, I read most of it and couldn't find any reference to it being dangerous to have a harness system but no roll cage.

    It's mostly about proper installation which may or may not inlcude a roll cage.

    I have a difficult time believing that a 5 point harness is more dangerous in a roll over accident than a standard OEM should and lap belt.

    However, I will leave the final word to our racing experts on this site.

    Kai
     
  7. UConn Husky

    UConn Husky F1 Rookie

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  8. m13s

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    Sorry to hear about your friend. Was this done on a racecourse or in street driving ?

    Being a former MC roadracer I have seen many freak things happen at the track...
    I used to hear some oldtime bikers tell me that the weight of the helmet during a crash could snap your neck so they would rather go without it. Having been over the bars at well over 100 MPH and landing on my head I can say my saftey equipment worked, so that argument does not hold any water for me.

    Would like to put in those seats but someone posted insurance companies may have an issue with modified belts, ect. Don't know how to go from a stock lap belt system to a 5 point harness could make you any less safe. Will 355 challenge seats work in my 348 SS ?

    Michael
     
  9. cuneo

    cuneo Formula 3 Silver Subscribed

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    Did you do that yourself Jay? Nice pshop if so. Liquify must have played a part.
     
  10. UConn Husky

    UConn Husky F1 Rookie

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    Nope, I found this elsewhere on Fchat. I do like to dabble in photography and pshop but I'm not THAT good :D
     
  11. troppoveloce

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    Back to Mods.....
    How about Nickel Plated Door Handles and Roof Latches?
    I was reluctant to post about them, but here's a picture. I think they look right at home.
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  12. plugzit

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    I do like the idea of having a very durable finish on these parts.
     
  13. ndpendant

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    My family grew up as motorcycle drag racers and cart runners, so not the heavy auto crashes that most here may experience. lots of road rash one dislocated hip and burns.
    The biggest problems come from harness in the car being improperly installed and at the wrong angles causing pelvic fractures, submarining, shoulder and spine compression and neck injuries from a stable body and a head that whips around without an hans device. In a rollover, the typical head takes 30-50G in centrifugal forces, so you have absolutely NO control about where your body will go. You cant hide or lay down, so the body tends to get straightened up in the car, many times resulting in a partial or total ejection from the car in a street situation. the head whips around a stable body and you can imagine what happens to your neck. Without a roll cage welded to the frame, your points of harness attachment and angles may not be correct and can cause more injury. Most crashes are some sort of frontal or side impact, which the neck and torso deceleration injuries become the problem. Rarely does someone have a TRUE 90 degree frontal crash that is described in the literature.
    the roof injuries usually come from getting thrown violently against the roof, not so much the roof coming down on your head.
    In my colleagues case, the roof collapsed all the way to the window sill level directly over his head when the front pillar collapsed. the car rolled for over a tenth of a mile before coming to a stop. the G forces were so large he had a complete transection of his spinal cord and his head nearly doubled in size. His eyes pushed forward in the orbits from the rolling. It was horrendous. In another friends accident, he hit a retaining cable for a fence that was angled up at about 70 degrees, the car drove up the cable and flipped causing an upper thoracic and low cervical injury resulting in paralysis. I myself had a front impact and submarining crash about 9 years ago, it resulted in a c4 and c6 neck fracture and thank god, allah and any othe diety no neruological damage. my head went through the side window and i was really beat up but walked away. that was a 40 mph head on.

    The DOT thing is state by state in my reading in a street car. Either way, if you use the harness I tend to agree that in a racing scenario regardless of a cage or not, i think youre a little safer IF the belts are installed by a professional. Ive seen the results in 2 people from rollover crashes and I am not a crash physics expert. I do work with trauma patients and I just hope everyone is safe and makes the decision in equipment that is best for them and installed properly.
    Sorry for the thread hijack.
    Nd
     
  14. AceMaster

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    Correct, too many (although the OP misspelled it, he only used one "o").

    Here it is:

     
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    Guys, It's just lite humor. You guys are soo serious.
     
  16. Kaivball

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    Agree with you 100% on those statements.

    Kai
     
  17. Kaivball

    Kaivball Three Time F1 World Champ Owner

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    :)

    You know, us 348 owners are a little sensitive because everyone talks down our cars for reliability, maintenance cost, etc, etc.

    Sorry that you didn't enjoy the experience as much.

    Kai
     

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