Mov'It Ceramic Brakes Arrived Today

The front 396 mm, six piston, billet caliper, Mov'It ceramic brakes for my 575M arrived today from Germany. Will take a bunch of photos of the installation when they are mounted. Rears are on order but will take a while to get here (pay). 360 mm, four piston, billet caliper as well. Calipers are painted Giallo Modena.

Mov'It brakes are being tested on the Renault F1 cars with good results. For anyone interested, here is their web-site: http://www.movitbrakes.com/en/

If the web site gets wiped, here are some posts with info.

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showpost.php?p=139760710&postcount=5

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showpost.php?p=139457525&postcount=42

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showpost.php?p=139457983&postcount=45

Taz
Terry Phillips

 

you lucky dog!

 

Very cool Terry we have all been waiting.....
lots of pictures please.

Bill

 

Very very nice. Do you think these will fit a 456? The brakes on my 456 are not that good.

 

Mov'It do a 456 kit. I have the 396mm ceramics with 6 piston billet calipers on my 456M. Easiest brake kit to fit I ever had. Take a bit of bedding in (up to 1000 miles) but, oh boy,are they worth it

 

Wow that is really cool! I'm really curious to hear your "before" and "after" evaluation.

 

Holy smoke Terry .. youre a lazy b**** ..... You only want them so you don't have to clean your wheels

BTW ... 1st dibs when you find they don't fit post #128202 cars. HaHaHa

Philip C

 

Philip- You got that right. Good news for you or someone else is there will be a full set of Rosso Corsa FHP brakes plus an extra set of factory rotors and pads for sale soon.

Taz
Terry Phillips

 

Here are some photos. One glitch, the calipers were supposed to be plain with no logo. Will have to fix that because they will have Ferrari decals on them before mounting. That is a 12" green ruler in the photos. The rotors are 396 x 36 mm (15.6" x 1.4"). The calipers are billet (monoblock). Small parts omitted.

Turns out the calipers are two piece.

Taz
Terry Phillips
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I have to admit that I have been checking the 575 section of this website at least a couple times a day looking for an update on your braking system. Very exciting. Look forward to installation pics and performance updates! Thanks Terry.

 

Must....stop....drooling.

Terry, these look more like the brakes found on 599xx rather than the ceramics Ferrari sells on the rest of their line? Are these a newer type of ceramic?

 

Wade- Completely different type of brake. The rotors are carbon silicon carbide all the way through and are way tougher than CCM brakes. They have been testing the rotor material on the F1 Renaults and they were lasting several races. Accelerated testing shows wear way in excess of 100,000 miles. The rotors you see are their third generation. The pads are huge, about 25-35% larger than CCM, depending on application.

Just to let you guys know, it did not take them this long to deliver. It took me that long to pay for them. Will be a long delay on the rears, too.

Incidentally, they are billet. The whole caliper is made out of one billet of aluminum and then cut in two with a water saw to do the internal work for the pistions, lines, etc.

Taz
Terry Phillips

 

Terry, are you upgrading for track use or other reasons? They look enormous; any problem with stock wheels?

 

Jerry- They will fit the 19" modulars and the 19" Novitecs I have on my car. The original CCMs fitted to the HGTCs had 398 mm rotors. They have ceramic applications for the 18" wheels as well and also have steel rotor applications for less money that are lighter and have way bigger pads than the OEM Brembos and available applications with 4 or 6 piston calipers. Just depends on what you want and how much you want to spend. Prices are competitive for all their applications and quality is really outstanding.

No track use for me. These brakes will last the life of the car and are actually better than the CCMs on the HGTC.

Taz
Terry Phillips

 

very nice! How is pricing compared to what Ferrari would charge for CCM's?

 

Larry- Probably a bit better than the Brembo CCMs and you do not need all that silly software, either. These rotors are not going to wear out while I am alive.

Would be interesting to see how they would work on the 430 Challenge cars. Most of them have switched back to steel rotors because they cannot afford to replace the rotors and pads on the CCM brakes. Mov'it have actually had one set of rotors last 500,000 kms (or was it miles?) in accelerated testing.

Taz
Terry Phillips

 

Very cool! Looking forward to more of your writeups.

Jon

 

Terry,

Nice brakes! I remember you saying that you were going to screen Ferrari with MOV'IT underneath. What color will the calipers be?

Barry

 

Very impressive stuff Terry- but I sincerely hope you take this as a challenge to outlive your rotors!

Long Live the Taz!

 

Barry- Those are my calipers in the photo. Taken on a table on my patio. They were supposed to be blank, but came silk-screened so I will have to take off the finish on that side of the calipers, repaint, put on my decals, and clear coat. Mov'It will probably send me the matching paint and clear-coat. Details still being worked.

Taz
Terry Phillips

 

+ 100

 

Very nice! How is the weight compared to the OEM/Brembo Carbon?

Do you happen to have images of the 4 piston setup? I can't find any.

 

Mov'It ceramics fitted to my 456M. Calipers supplied in plain silver (special order) and I applied the Ferrari decals and then clear coated them. Not a lot of room between the calipers and rims
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Given that most of the braking occurs at the front, is there a necessity, apart from aesthetics to put the Movits on the rear.

Would Movits(front), stock(rear) alter brake bias much in a road car??

I had a Tilson brake bias adjuster set-up in my 308 20 years ago and once I set it for what I liked best, in all honesty, I couldn't tell much difference between road cruising, and track work.

However having said that I bought a Lambhorghini Espada years ago which had no working brakes in the rear ... It thought it had great brakes

Regards
Philip C.

 

Philip- No, that combination is what Mark is running right now and they work fine. On one of these big V12s, the rear brakes need to: 1) not lock up, 2) keep the rear end behind the front end, 3) provide a bit of braking power when stopping, and 4) provide braking force so the ASR can use them under hard acceleration to prevent wheel spin.

My rear Mov'It ceramic brakes will be four piston with 360 mm rotors.

Just to give you an idea of the distribution of braking force on a stock 575M Maranello, here are the specs:

F 330 x 32 mm rotors, Brembo 4 piston calipers, diameters 38/46 mm, piston area 55.92 sq cm
R 310 x 28 mm rotors, Brembo 4 piston calipers, diameters 30/34 mm, piston area 32.30 sq cm

Pad contact area is 121.4 sq cms F and 85.4 sq cms R.

Take all that into account and most of the braking force is on the front.

Taz
Terry Phillips