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  1. Simon^2

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    #1 Simon^2, Sep 25, 2010
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    Bring Massa in on lap one. change tires... and go to the end.

    Odds of a safety car prob >80%
     
  2. VIZSLA

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    Massa will be running a "new" engine without penalty. Is this a clever way to circumvent the rules?
     
  3. Ferrarista3

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    Basically like they did with Alonso at Monaco.
     
  4. robert_c

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    I like it.
     
  5. Simon^2

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    No circumventing... just following the letter of the law. Don't you love it!
     
  6. bigodino

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    100% if Alonso crashes on purpose. Oh no, that's been done before ;)
     
  7. robert_c

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    Too clever for Stefano. More of a Falvio idea. Perhaps he has been consulted.
     
  8. VIZSLA

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    Pin a rose on yourself!
    I love it.
     
  9. Simon^2

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    #9 Simon^2, Sep 25, 2010
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    Awhhh... Can't add a poll...

    Can a mod add a poll?

    Will Massa stop for tires on lap 1?
    yes
    no
     
  10. VIZSLA

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    If he starts from pit lane can he change tires before leaving?
     
  11. thirteendog

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    I don't think so, I think you have to run a lap on the tires for them to be considered "used"
     
  12. DeSoto

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    I don´t know if the hard tyres can hold a full race distance in this track.
     
  13. VIZSLA

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    Someone get me an attorney, a rule book and a pound of fifties and we can make it happen ;)
     
  14. TheMayor

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    Good strategy until someone comes over the radio and says:

    "Alonso if faster than you. Alonso is faster than you."
     
  15. Chicko

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    A 1st lap tire change would be worth a try, but its unlikely that 1 set of tires would last the whole race distance like they pretty much did for Vettel at Monza, as the Tire wear at Singapore is much higher.
     
  16. .:Raul

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    24th to 1st....... It will work, brilliant!
     
  17. VIZSLA

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    And if it does in the next race everyone will be trying to qualify last ;)
     
  18. Fast_ian

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    OK, I'll agree with that.

    However, have we really seen any tires "destroyed" this year? I really don't remember thinking, "wow, those were toast!"

    My point is that I think they're basically wooden, and either compound can last a race distance if asked to do so...... The talking heads are generally saying "the options are 0.x seconds quicker, but only last a handful of laps before going off", blah blah - Bull****! - It seems to me we've seen guys running super long stints on both compounds without "disastrous" consequences - Many seem to set fastest laps after 20-30 laps etc. [OK, I know the fuel load is reducing, but it hardly seems like they're wearing out.]

    I still kinda like the idea though - Even better would be if he could change 'em before starting and hence avoid any first lap BS.....

    Cheers,
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  19. thirteendog

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    #19 thirteendog, Sep 25, 2010
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  20. Far Out

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    +1

    Tires really seem to hold forever this year. According to Auto Motor und Sport magazine, Vettel's crew calculated that his soft tires in Monza would be toast after 15 laps. He managed do drive 52 laps without having any tire problems...
     
  21. kraftwerk

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    In other words to damn good...;)
     
  22. Simon^2

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    And webber had a really deep run in one race. Tires seem to be a non-issue other than quali and the must change rule...

    I'd be shocked if massa doesn't start on softs and pull in on lap 1.
     
  23. LightGuy

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    This works.
    Make sure he lags back a bit to avoid the first lap melee that is sure to happen. No need to pick off backmarkers on the first lap.
     
  24. Sellnit

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    I can get you two of three, does that help? LOL
     
  25. VIZSLA

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    Let him hang WAY back and be lapped by Zo quickly so he can start blocking early.
    ;)
     

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