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Enzo engine dies at Laguna Seca

Discussion in '288GTO/F40/F50/Enzo/LaFerrari/F80' started by Bill S, Oct 8, 2010.

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  1. 134282

    134282 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    LOL!

    Interesting. So why doesn't Ferrari still have parts for the Enzo engine?

    Just saw the P45C video by the way; awesome.
     
  2. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    They do. Racambi who is a sponsor can get them. I'd start with them. There are also other internal engine parts easily available that as other's have pointed out may be better.
     
  3. CornersWell

    CornersWell F1 Rookie

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    Having done more rebuilds than I ever wanted to do, I can attest that Ferrari often re-uses parts from older models. And, since the 599 motor is similar to the Enzo motor, I suspect motor parts will be available for quite a while. I haven't checked to see if the rods, pistons, crank and valves are the same part numbers, but they might well be. But they won't be inexpensive. That NEVER seems to change!

    CW
     
  4. PAP 348

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    I wont, but I can imagine what they would be worth. :(:(
     
  5. CornersWell

    CornersWell F1 Rookie

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    A whole lot less after extra holes are in them.

    CW
     
  6. Ferraripilot

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    That is a rough clunk to have to deal with.

    Who is fixing the head?
     
  7. tvu

    tvu Formula 3
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    Sorry to hear of this. I must say you have the best spirit when faced with these types of situations. Best wishes with the repairs.
     
  8. Bill S

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    #58 Bill S, Oct 14, 2010
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  9. Tifosi15

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    It's still gorgeous even without a heart and soul :eek:
     
  10. BorisSF

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    You should throw the Carrera GT engine in there ;)

    Sacrilege they'll all say!
     
  11. technom3

    technom3 F1 World Champ
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    im surprised it doesn't look "stinkbugged"
     
  12. TOOLFAN

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    LOL. Thats great, slowest Enzo ride ever :).
     
  13. Christian.Fr

    Christian.Fr Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Thanks for sharing pictures Bill.
    I remember easly the CS burned during the tragique fire in Califirnia, and now the Enzo engine.
    No doubt! you re very patient with your Fcars, many people put hands down but you ve
    a strong passion.
     
  14. Bill S

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    Luckily the Enzo engine is repairable. I don't think I could have fixed that CS engine. That's it on the bottom with my buddy checking it out.

    So you can see a burned Enzo cylinder is not so bad.
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  15. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Bill- Good luck on the rebuild. Manley will make better SS valves for the car for a much lower price than OEM valves.

    Taz
    Terry Phillips
     
  16. Natan Tazelaar

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    Sorry to see this, but at least there is proof you use the car for what it's intended...

    natant
     
  17. rext

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    That last picture is like the tin man...no heart! It will be screaming again soon enough.
     
  18. PAP 348

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    How did your CS burn Bill??? :(:(

    That a Lambo there also?? Did a transport truck catch fire or something?? :eek::eek:
     
  19. Bill S

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    Unfortunately not that simple! Most of our neighborhood was gone in the October 2007 Southern CA wildfire (100 mph+ winds), including one CS, a GT3 RS and Viper RT/10.
     
  20. PAP 348

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    Oh, yes. Sorry to hear mate. :(:(
     
  21. SamBoler

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    Can't wait to hear that your car is back on the road
     
  22. ThisFlyGuy

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    Bill, any progress on the repair of your engine?
     
  23. Bill S

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    Things are going well. The rebuild should be completed in a few weeks. We replaced:

    - Cylinder head with new valves and springs
    - All 12 cylinder sleeves
    - All 12 piston
    - Lifters
    - Crank bearings

    The cams, crank and connecting rods look good. We did an ultrasonic clean of all parts including the block, oil pan and oil pump. I'll have more detail after my next visit.
     
  24. CornersWell

    CornersWell F1 Rookie

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    Glad to hear it's coming along. It's the wait on the parts that always slowed us down...

    Contrary to what some may want us to believe, a Ferrari engine is just an engine, after all. It sucks, it squeezes, it explodes and it blows. Easy enough to work on when something fouls up. It just sounds better in Italian.

    CW
     
  25. ECS

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    I concur. Very similar failures with modern motocross bikes. The welded portion of the valve breaks and cause the same kind damage. In one larger case involving thousands of motorcycles, the manufacture had got a "bad batch" of valves from their supplier. A later post mentioned Bill is replacing many parts, except the con rods. Be careful that one rod is not bent ever so slightly. Once rod and piston is installed while the head is still off check the piston to cylinder wall clearance on all sides to make sure it is consistent. So many repaired bikes ended up failing, because rod was bent a couple thousandths and went undetected. The engine still turned over and ran well{for a while}.
     

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