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I'm considering buying a "CUT" Daytona.....

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  1. loflyer47

    loflyer47 Formula Junior

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    Opinions?? Pluses and minuses? Today's market value? Any available? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance...
     
  2. Daytonafan

    Daytonafan F1 Rookie

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    You should also read the Holey Daytona thread as well
     
  3. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Value equals an uncut example, or less.......

    Not a great idea, IMO.......but it's your money.
     
  4. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    No kidding he built one correctly...but at what cost???

    The panels he used would have to be custom fabbed at this point I would think.

    There's one other car (coupe) that was burned down and rebuilt correctly (spyder) IIRC, out on the West Coast now.
     
  5. cdu

    cdu Karting

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    Doesn't it kinda depend on:

    A. I'm not worried if it folds in half if some lady reading a kindle while driving a Suburban wanders into my lane.

    B. I'm not worried about being asked to park on the street when I go to the Lars Anderson Ferrari meet.

    C. I like the wind in my hair, the leaks in the rain, and the flex of car's body as I go over bumpy urban streets (or speed bumps at the local Target).

    D. I can paint it camo if I want. It's only original once, and someone already fixed that for me. With a hacksaw.

    E. I'm not rich enough to own a real one and I've got just enough pride that I don't want a C3 Crockett special and I *really* want a convertible.

    F. I think they look better than a cut 400i, and their easier to find with a 5spd (than the cut 400gt would be).
     
  6. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Sounds like your going in 'eyes open'........enjoy!!!!!

    It totally depends on who handled the hack saw, IMO......

    Are you where some one knowledgable could look at it???
     
  7. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Camo will look nice!!! :D :D

    Anything looks better than a cut 400i............;)
     
  8. Jeff Kennedy

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    I don't have a problem with a cut Daytona if done well and one fully accepts that it is not and never will be a "real" spyder. It can be enjoyed with lesser worries. Since it won't be concours eligible anyway one can have power sterring, solving a major Daytona usability problem, and color combination of choice. A few extra rock chips from enjoying the car shouldn't even be a problem.

    Jeff
     
  9. tiara4300

    tiara4300 Formula Junior

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    I've owned one and it was great. I didn't feel like it was a "replica" . I now own a 400i Straman convt. , don't feel like thats a replica either. I would have no hesitation buying a cut Daytona that passes a thorough inspection. I didn't use mine to cruise at 140mph. I used it to cruise around town , and it was just fine. For the same price as a coupe you can buy a convertible. My feeling is that in the short term your money is just as safe in either.
     
  10. Bullfighter

    Bullfighter Two Time F1 World Champ
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    It's a tough choice, but as noted in the Sheehan article it would be good to find one that had the bracing updates made to the factory Spyders.

    If it's any consolation, the Daytona is one of the best looking coupes ever made. While I'm usually in the "open cars are true motoring" camp, I would personally pay more for a really nice Daytona coupe than a cut convertible. Back when they were being beheaded, they weren't quite as collectible in their own right.
     
  11. of2worlds

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    The black/black Daytona has a couple of curious features including spinner knock-off wheels. Also the steering wheel doesn't have the typical two holes in each spoke.
    Strictly on the dollars a cut coupe makes sense for driving pleasure. Just stay away from the guys in jackets and ties carrying judging sheets...
    CH
     
  12. BIGHORN

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    I agree with 2 world's re cut cars.

    My Daytona has a steering wheel with no holes. and I have seen one other as well as a road test in a UK mag that pictured a no holes wheel. Gerald Roush used my wheel as an example of everything not being uniformly done at the factory.

    I dont think you could sell that to the Concours guys, though.
     
  13. geno berns

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    I drove a cut Daytona with full and proper bracing that made the body fairly rigid. The car was done up at Sport Auto of Modena. At full song with the open top there are few cars out there that provide as good of an experience. The car also looked incredible. Most could not tell that it was a cut job...

    Geno
     
  14. f308jack

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    Read the Holy Daytona thread, there are many pictures in there showing the re-inforcements that were incorporated in the cars to kake them drive well. Talk with Grant (owner of the subject car).

    A Daytona spider is a beautiful car, but they were built as spiders from the start. Successfuly converting a Berlinetta is an elaborate and expensive operation.

    Grant did 2 things at the same time: he restored the car as well as made the converion complete. Although it will never be an original, his car will be as good as once finished. Perfection comes at a price though...
     
  15. Arvin Grajau

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    I'd ask IanB ,in the Aussie section as he has a spyder and what he has done to it over the last few years.
     
  16. JazzyO

    JazzyO F1 World Champ

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    Buy a Daytona GTB and a nice Alfa Spyder (Duetto or something like that) instead.


    Onno
     
  17. Ashman

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    His profile list of cars owned shows a Daytona competition (!) coupe so he is already in that camp.
     
  18. amenasce

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    The black car from Autosport looks very nice but the rear seems to be sitting quite high no?
     
  19. DAYTONASME

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    +1

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  20. Poli

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    I own a ´cut´Daytona which i drove today and enjoyed with some friends. (250 SWB-MB 300SL).

    Considering the real ´spyders´haven´t been spyders at all(they were 122 berlinettas sent to Scaglietti and ´cut´job was done there) i think it´s a very good and fair deal.

    My Conversion was made by Bachelli Villa (Modena) and the story says they found all ´original´ parts from Scaglietti(some blocks away) so the car is almost the same thing (reinforced rear bodywork).

    Daytona Spyders are eligible for NOTHING, so i think the real pleasure of owning one is on the opened driving experience, so i can´t find a difference between Scaglietti conversion or other.

    If your idea is winning concourses, well this car is not for you.

    Considering the price of a Scaglietti conversion is x 4, i would say BUY, but try to find the right car and right price.



    Best regards,
     
  21. donv

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  22. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
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    I imagine that not being concours qualified is, in its own way, liberating. Less worry about use and such.
     
  23. ferraripete

    ferraripete F1 World Champ

    roberto villa is the best...i would rather drive a bachelli/villa car than the scaglietti car as i would imagine the bastiglia fellows would build it better!
     
  24. open roads

    open roads F1 Rookie

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    I have a 550 Straman Spyder. I love it.

    I had a Daytona coupe because that's what I wanted. No regrets there.

    I would have a cut car. I agree with Poli above.

    Do the best you can. But by all means do it!

    And remember. Enjoy the open roads!
     

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