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Dealership damaged my F430 spider

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  1. Mr. Francesco

    Mr. Francesco F1 Rookie

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    Agreed.
     
  2. Napolis

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    Warranty on an 05?
     
  3. joker57676

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    That was my thought. Surpised it took so long for someone to comment.

    Mark
     
  4. Ripped Fat

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    My god he made me laugh.
     
  5. gil308

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    What does Ferrari offer as a warranty? Is it 2 years? I bought mine as a 14 year old car, so don't have a clue. OOOh...I've almost owned my 308 1/2 it's life!
     
  6. hardtop

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    It was 4 years on 430 spiders (3 years on coupes) but you could buy an extended warranty. The price is pretty stiff however.

    Dave
     
  7. Rifledriver

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    For all we know it was an emission warranty issue. Also many people think recalls, campaigns and TSBs are all warranty.
     
  8. GENERAL LEE

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    #33 GENERAL LEE, Dec 3, 2010
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    He could have the PowerCube factory warranty.

    Once the factory warranty expires, you get the option of renewing it each year by having the dealer perform the factory's required 101 point inspection. Once the car passes this inspection, you pay for an additional one year of factory warranty. As long as someone hasn't let the warranty lapse, you get bumper to bumper coverage. If someone has let the warranty expire without renewal somewhere along the way, you can still purchase a factory warranty from Ferrari, but it will have limitations.

    I have attached a PDF file from Ferrari, that shows the various levels of warranty, the price of each, and what the car needs to have to be eligible for one:
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  9. AceMaster

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    +1
     
  10. Etcetera

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    Leave the scratch there. In 30 years it'll be patina.
     
  11. Buxton

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    Me too.
    I'd be a bit more concerned over the dealerships lack of forthcoming honesty rather than the actual scratch. If they did do it (all we have is one opinion so far), then why wouldn't they come clean?
     
  12. ferraripete

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    cigarette?

    yes i know.
     
  13. technom3

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    that is pretty good.

    In all honesty, I have used many many many many different body shops in my life... and well, the fancy building doesn't always mean that they put out quality work.

    For example, The Penske body shop here in Phoenix is a palace, at one point, one of the few places in the country to be able to repair aluminum chassis cars. There repair work is good... THERE PAINT WORK IS AWFUL!!!!! I have no clue how they could ship out some of the cars they sent out... Unbelievable. I have seen bumper touch up guys do better spraying a bumper in the open air in a parking lot than the utter **** this body shop has put out.

    my point is... even though the place may not look like a palace... it could still have a great workers with attention to detail. I hate to use this example because I haven't personally seen the place... but look at Wayne Cariinnis place of Chasing Classic cars... his facility is not an attractive place... but he puts out outstanding work (at least it appears that way if you can score 99.7 points at a real concours) some areas of his "shop" looks like a dungeon... but the quality is very good.

    Be concerned with the out come. Insist to the store that you will only accept perfection from the repaint. That you will be picky. They don't want to deal with this anymore than you do... so knowing that you are picky they will pay extra special attention and make sure its done right
     
  14. Glen_Lloyd

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    I just saw a black 458 Italia in the showroom at Beverly Hills Ferrari. My very unprofessional opinion is that I would not pay that much for a car with the orange peel paint on the hood.
    I don't think the paint on Ferrari is better than the paint on a Ford.
     
  15. S Brake

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    I doubt very many people are buying a Ferrari for the paint quality. Granted the quality should be there for a car costing that much, but a good detailer can fix orange peel.
     
  16. Glen_Lloyd

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    I guess I didn't make my point clear... I love the car but the paint would have to be fixed before I got it...
     
  17. Jack-the-lad

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    I wish I'd said that.....
     
  18. SrfCity

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    F spent a kajillion on a new paint facility in Maranello a few years back. You'd think that would count for something to offer a glass finish?? Guess not.
     
  19. konatown

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    For what its worth, the matte finish on two AMG Black Series local cars is extremely orange peely.
     
  20. hardtop

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    They did but the paint is still crap. The paint on my 430 chips easily and has uneven finish. There is also an errant drop on the aluminum door sill, I assume from botched touch up. Then I look at the finish on our Toyota 4runner. It is beautiful and tough. Ditto my Porsche.

    Dave
     
  21. Glen_Lloyd

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    Black is hard to paint perfect.

    OP can get any reputable shop to touch up his car, no special skills required.
     
  22. phrogs

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    every paint job has orange peel, It needs a cut and buff to make it perfect.

    Wet sanding and buffing thats what will remove that.
     
  23. Glen_Lloyd

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    I will accept that at face value, but there are most certainly different degrees of orange peel and better painters can eliminate the worst of it.
     
  24. technom3

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    orange peel is an excess amount of clear coat. thats it. period end of story. you can wet sand like others have said to make the surface smoother. Doing so will eliminate all of the orange peel. A good painter, just spends more time cutting and buffing... thats the reality. End of story.

    Thats why a good detailer can, and I hate to use this term, "Correct" the paint FINISH. Its not a paint correction, but a paint finish correction... but thats a different thread all together.


    Orange peel is not the sign of a poor paint job. Every single paint job has orange peel from the factory except for id say aston on the DB9s, rolls royce, and Bentley does an okay job on some of the cars. But BMW, Lexus, Audi, Ferrari, Porsche, Lamborghini, Land rover (a frikckin joke) etc... all have orange peel. As a manufacturer, the extra clear coat adds extra protection to the paint for people who drive there cars... it gives the paint more durability over time.

    yes... yes... yes... they could add an extra coat or two of clear and then sand it better. You are correct... but that is costly... and labor intensive.
     
  25. Doctor7474

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    I agree with the above. I've worked for several dealerships and paint quality for the most part from the factory's are all pretty crappy. The main difference is at the dealership level. Some of them know the issue with the paint and they will correct it before the vehicles hit the street. If the dealership does not automatically correct the paint prior to delivering it bring it to their attention and they should correct it prior to getting it to you.
     

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