Spent the weekend in Seattle and am casually looking for a 360 CS. Ferrari of Seattle has a nice one http://www.ferrariofseattle.com/inventory/details.aspx?ID=335 but look how the prices of 430's have come down.. http://www.ferrariofseattle.com/inventory/details.aspx?ID=402 I am interested in the peanut gallery, which one would you buy?
I'll be the first to state the obvious, the CS has a lot of miles. I'd lean towards the 430 between these two.
I recently went through the same decision and concluded that I wanted something unique and exclusive. Nothing better than the CS. I would find one with the lowest miles and best condition even if you have to pay a little more for it. The CS will clearly be the better value in the long term!
cs is not at advanced as the 430 ... 430 would eat it alive on a nice highway stretch of road =) 4.3 liter .... cs is beautiful though !
I'm not even sure why you are comparing these cars. They are apples and oranges. 18 thousand people bought a new F430 over a used CS. That's not a knock against the CS. I just shows that they are two different kind of machines with two different personalities and two different driving needs. Decide what kind of driving or lifestyle you want and buy the one that suits that.
Who cares? That's not the only reason to buy one of these cars. I'm not racing 430's at the track every weekend.
On the track it would be a different story. Tests prove this point. Truth is, very few of us totally get to experience the performance of either car. For me it came down for the same money did I want to buy a general production car or a limited production Ferrari. I chose the latter.
The CS will have much higher maintenance costs with the belt changes. bdelp makes a good point on choices, so I'm not sure I agree that the CS will hold prices better.
CS! 430 prices will decline more their are also very many F430s made vs. only 1 year of the CS. Many people buy 2-3 CS's or when they sell them they go back to buying one again.
Apples and oranges. It depends on what you want. The 430 is more comfortable feels like it has more torque no belt newer but is no CS. The CS is just special.
one is limited production and the other isn't. The F430 will depreciate faster. Think F40 and Enzo. They're still the same price for the last few years.
I'm one who doesn't believe in the CS will be in "high demand" to make the price significantly more valuable than an 360 in the long run. More valuable--- yes. But not significantly. Limited production ONLY works for increasing the value if the car is wanted in high demand. If you're looking at it for a collector car to stick in your garage and keep the mileage low... OK. But, if you just want a Ferrari performance car, you can choose a CS or a Scud -- and the Scud is clearly a superior performance car. The two cars will always compete against each other forever. Their pricing will also always be linked. Remember, there's a very limited amount of AMC Gremlins out there too but I don't see them comanding a high price. It's about demand, not just quantity. With a choice between a Scud and a CS, most will choose the Scud as it's price falls (which it will) unless they don't want to spend that much money. In that case, the lower priced CS will do. Only those who think the CS is better looking or want it as a collectible (which I find doubtful) will be motivated to pay more for the CS in compared to the Scud. If there were never any Scuds out there, I would agree. But, with the Scud, the CS just has more competition in any potential buyer's mind. And, if they do make a 458 version, that will put even more pressure in the long run. The more small production performance minded cars Ferrari makes, the less unique the CS will appear. Summing up, in the near future (say 5 to 8 years) CS prices will hover somewhere between where the current price levels are for the 360 and Scud. "Holding" their value will be insignificant and in line with the other two cars. In short -- a wash.
I see where you are coming from and I don't necessarily disagree with some of it but..... Go try and buy a nice CS right now at a price remotely in line with the 360. You can't do it. I took me close to a year to find mine. It was a lot of work. It's 0-60 time wasn't on my list of "cares". If I want a nice Scud right now, no problem. I'll have it tomorrow and for a great price. You can't say the demand for a the CS isn't there.
I didn't say there was no demand or that it would not sell at a premium. I said the CS and Scud prices will always be linked to some degree, and that will limit it's value for some time to come. CS's are selling at a Premium over 360 coupes and will continue to do so Scuds are selling at a Premium over the F430 coupe and will continue to do so. The day the CS sells for more than the Scud is a long way off, if ever. Therefore, the idea of the CS being somehow immune to depreciation may be true but not in a significant amount. The 360, the CS, and the Scud are all tied together. You have to look at the pricing of all three to determine the future pricing or depreciation of the CS. It's not simply "how few they made" but what are the alternative choices in the market.
Sorry, I disagree. Too many Scuds were produced. The law of economics will dictate the future prices. CS prices will prevail over scud prices down the road. Just you wait.
Wow that's a REALLY good price on the F430, I would go for the 430 hands down if I had to pick between those cars. I'm looking at a 360 with 23k miles on it right now and it's an 04, not sure what that is worth either...or if I should just spend a bit more and get a 430 it seems?
