there not the only ones. The Grand Prix office in Melbourne has, on lots of occasions. asked certain members (and the committee), for cars to display at the grand prix. They want the cars to make their event better for the public (who is paying, with the entrance fee money, to see our cars. We get nothing from the grand prix office for this. Not even a free day ticket. This year they want 10 Ferrari's for the 4 days , on display, with NO cover for the cars. So those cars are out in the weather for 4 days with bogun's touching them and I've seen these bogum's in the past, open doors and sit in the cars. )dragged a guy out of the LM once at the grand prix. If he had asked it would of been okay, but he didn't.
i think you vote yes,and have little to do with them,plus it means any "Look at me look at me" breakaway group is dead in the water. Just means your club has to put up with 'em. Thank Christ they don't come on the carby runs.
There isn't really. There's this one blip at the moment brought on by ferrari which has to involve the whole club. Otherwise there's usually no sign of unrest outside of the occasional butting of heads at committee level, which the members never end up knowing or hearing about.
You may not be aware. BUT in the past the Ferrari club has had charity days for charities like the childrens hospital and very special kids. We've had track days at Calder and sandown where we drove people around the track for a fee and all monies collected went to the charities. (blew a tyre on my 512 at 180K down the bottom of the straight at sandown on one of these days. The passenger shat himself. (I think i did too). we have concourse events for very special kids and all the money from the public's entrance fee , went to the kids. In fact the last one I did was a charity day at CAlder with both my F40 and LM . GV drove the F40. All the money went to charity. It's harder to do track days like this, these days because of all the rules and public liability insurance etc. etc.
Great! that's the sort of thing that should be done. I can appreciate the insurance aspect too. Anyhow i wasn't aware it had been done before, it was just a suggestion. Nothing is less appealing than a bunch of guy sitting around wanking over their cars. There are the true enthusiasts ( i like to consider myself one of those) Then there are the show offs. I can imagine the two types of owners have different values and hence the possibility for politics to begin. Having common goals like raising money for charities may bring the two types of owners together. The high flyers can name drop and pull in favours from "friends" such as corporates. The commoners can walk talk and generate the interest to raise funds from the general public. How about hitting Ferrari for an idea to pay for the liability insurance for such events. They can wave their flag that they are supporting charities.
I think that boils down to negotiation. There must be some give and take. If you want my Ferrari there, well then 1. It must be secure at all times 2. It must be undercover as a gesture of goodwill they should throw in a ticket. I think that is not too much to ask. If the organisers don't agree, well then you simply don't agree.
Add BMW to the list, you can order almost any part for an out of production car through the dealer service network.
yes you are correct. There is no way I would leave any of my cars out in the weather for 4 days................+ add the bogun's
I don't see where you are coming from - polite for you got it totally upside down. If there is a "look at me group" it has to be the people who need to be recognised by Ferrari - specially in light of the seemingly obvious fact that Ferrari is going to give club B all else and even after it organises to extract more dollars from its fans (us), and up the cost and risk of events by forcing us (you wait and see) to hol higher cost more expensive events to attract the A list type.
So the score seems to have moved from "all car companies control their enthusiast base totally, like Ferrari is trying to" to more like "well actually,no one can identify anyone other than Ferrari that do the control thing and most of the big identities are known not to" So I am living in the past am I ? - NO, just wanting to maintain what is fair and reasonable into the future.
Your quote above showed me as saying the following. "Originally Posted by DinoProf The worst aspect of such discussion is that certain parties are inclined to resort to irrelecance and insult as a form of argument, like I do, and too often contribute little in the process." What you submitted as a quote was presumably falsified by you by inserting the words, "like I do". You may wish this is true, and perhaps despite my best efforts it is true, but your post is to smart by half and you ought to by condemned for it. - lets see if you or this chat site has any integrity.
So will they - or are you just falling for their negotiating tactic. Think about it. They got stalled in NZ by a protest against registering the logo there and went to a co-operative agreement with good stuff in it like arbitration provisions. If we actually had a go at keeping our name, and there is good reason to believe we could keep it, then Ferrari would either have to come to an agreement with us like in NZ, so they could use their current IP or trash it and start again, and hope that thei new club worked - in the knowledge that most club members are older car people not new car people. If you reckon we cant keep our name then just show me the basic legal case. There is none. No one will back down quicker than me if you can show me the basic case.
I was an invited driver in 2005/2006 give charity hot laps in others cars at Oran Park.. some nice machinery (eg Evo Makinen) and great to see everyone donate time and/or cars to raise funds for a worthy charity.. It's a great concept & would do again in a heartbeat if the opportunity ever came up again.
It's fine to do your own - I think I'll be doing a lot more of it the future, but if many people want to do much, too often, then they tend to need an organisation and a name, and then the dollars and liability issues mount up and they decide it would be better to be incorporated.....and have a club with the name of the marque they favour. That's not "look at me" that's just life.
so you all tip in some money,they are Ferrari owners not Holden camira owners from India. Should we do a Yes/NO Poll? The last one aided the NO vote,this time i suspect it will be the Yes vote. Image Unavailable, Please Login
the QLD club is doing it's 2nd Make-a-wish day and have done days in the past for special kids .... we're not ALL selfish bastards Was told by the MAW organiser that 35% of the kids from last year won't be here for this year's event
You are too cryptic for me - that should draw a comment from PP. If the point is about whether people who drive crap-mobiles (viz not Ferrri) should be allowed call themselves "The Ferrari Car Sort Of Club" - I have no problems with that. If they want to call themselves "The Ferrari Car Club" and all drive Holden Carmira's I have no problem with that - though I would be a bit annoyed if I wasted my time writing to them with the view to joining, after being misled by their name. If you are, as a separate matter, saying that you think the the vote might be "yes" this time I'd agree - mind you against what bar 50% or 70%. And part of the problem is that the memership are tired AND have been massively misled by the National Committee. The Committee are entitled to make a recommendation having presented all the facts accurately based on good advice to the members. In my view they have not done that. I have invited the substantive legal argument to be put in some of my posts, but thus far nothing but fluff has emerged.
