Will a 430 complement my Nissan GTR

No a Ferrari will compliment your datsun

 

One, your Nissan, can be your coupe, or bad weather car, for sunny days you could have an F430 or F360 Spider. I guarrantee you will get a ton of "compliments" if you pull the trigger and add a Ferrari to your collection.

Who did the work on your GTR? Been thinking of getting one, to "complement" my Ferrari.

 

It's probably more a case of contrast than complement but "Go for it" I say!

Both totally different cars with very different driving and ownership experience. While I'm sure the GTR gets plenty of attention I think you'll find that the general public admire the passion of Ferrari that little bit more.

Be careful jumping from one to the other though - an F430 will bite with over-steer in a way that your GTR probably doesn't (even with 650 horses)!

 

If you do go for it I suggest buying a really good battery tender for the GTR. Most likely it will be sitting for loooong periods of time once you acquire the 430. Happy shopping and posts some examples you are currently looking at.

 

LOL

 

Will look like the beauty and the beast...
and when I say beast I am not talking about performance...

 

430s aren't known for being very complimentary. They are rude and stuck up.





In all seriousness, do it. There is nothing like a Ferrari, even 650hp from an overweight datsun.

Plus, I see you are local, and we have some great events and drives in the area that are off the radar, and not FCA or Fchat sanctioned. PM me if you are interested in more...

 

Won't be a popular point of view around these parts but I think the GTR represents the future and Ferrari is a thing of the past. Nissan underrates while Ferrari overrates their power and Nissan works anywhere anytime whereas Ferrari wants to send two cars and a team to the track before letting a magazine put it into a comparison.

Ferrari is becoming the butt of jokes among enthusiasts who don't just drool over the prancing horse emblem.

 

OK, I don't really mean to be rude, but this is an absolutely ridiculous question. The GTR is over 4000# and is NOT track oriented no matter how you slice it. The 430 will destroy the GTR in cornering and handling. You should be tracking the 430, not the GTR.

Get a 430, sell the GTR and put the proceeds towards tires.

 

Is that why Rob offered to roll me in to DatsunChat for free in 3 years if I buy a lifetime Rossa subscription?

 

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Absolutely normal levels based on the weight of the car. Undoubtedly LESS than what the wear and tear is on a car 1000# heavier (wear of consumables is directly related to the weight of the car). That is to say, no more or less than any other sportscar (2800-3200# range) I've tracked.

Absolutely fine! If you are on 20-30 minute sessions, there are zero issues.

Having expertly driven all manner of 3000# cars and 4000# cars, I can assure you that when driven well the 430 will destroy an also well-driven GTR. Not in terms of lap time, but in terms of cornering, handling, and just plain fun factor.

The 430 is absolutely a rock solid car and not fragile or requiring excessive maintenance or other issues as I hear earlier models may suffer from. I'm very surprised that you say the cost is higher, because it's absolutely the case that consumables cost less on the 430 than on the GTR, when tracked.

 

Only that this is Ferrarchat, not Nissanchat.

You shouldn't expect to get a lot of praise of the Red Sox on the Yankees website.

But seriously, you'll find a lot of guys here who have tracked the F430 regularly without issue. There is a lot of great info to be learned.

 

Thanks for the laugh.

 

Well I have just a bit of experience, and I maybe old fashioned, and old, and alone in this view but any car that is AWD and weighs close to 4000lbs is not a sports car, no matter how much power it has. So yes I'd say sell the GTR, buy a 1980's 911 (make it a track car, remove anything that is not needed for the track) and drive the 430 for fun.

 

Buy a 355 or a 360cs instead of the 430! It's a Ferrari and I am guessing you want one! It would compliment your GTR, and give you a taste of f ownership .

 

Yup! You're old fashioned alright!

Having said that, whenever I've driven a 4WD I've always found them quite boring to drive. They hold on just too well and take something away from enthusiastic driving. Different story on the loose stuff I suppose but I haven't any experience of that.

 

I think an F430 would be a great addition to your garage. It's a fantastic road car which can also be tracked. Performance numbers aside, the 430 is an almost completely different experience compared to the GT-R. The feel inside the car, the engine response and sound, the balance, the chassis response, etc, all very specific. In other words, whichever car you jump in that day, you would definitely not feel like you were driving the other. That makes them good garage mates, IMO.

I can't imagine anyone driving a 430 and not enjoying it. Go for it.

 

Oh goodness... first, sorry about the quality replies today. I've lurked for some time and you did catch people willing to show their backside today... but it's not the norm in my experience.

I've driven the GTR and it is an extraordinary machine. (as are basically any modern sports cars)

I understand where you are coming from EXACTLY because I have been pondering this same question for a few weeks now. And the conclusion I have come up with is that you're 100% correct. Keep the 430 as a marquise car and thrash the Japanese car.

Here's what got me thinking... One day I realized that for the costs of maintenance of an Fcar if you drive it hard, you can just about buy a new Evo outright. (that was a powerful statistic) Is an Evo as good as a 430? ... of course not. Is it 80% as good at 20% the cost... um yeah.

I've said for years that my favorite car was the one I was in. And the bottom line is seat time is far easier to get (in both money and logistics) in a Japanese car.

So, sorta like you, I'm considering a dedicated track car. And I've considered everything from a Challenge car to buying an old beater DSM to a spec Miata et al. More and more I'm thinking that an upgraded EVO or a GTR dedicated to track use sounds like a real fun toy.

(I also own a hovercraft and it does not corner near as well as a 430 but it's a fun toy too ;-)

So do I think the two cars compliment each other? Absolutely. They are not the same car obviously but they do go well together. But then I've also been looking at antique Rolls Royces lately... not because it tracks better than a 430. But because it doesn't even try.

 

Two more thoughts...

For all the chest beating in this thread, 95% of the blowhards couldn't drive your GTR to 80% of it's capabilities... much less a 430. Unless you as a driver are being held back by an upgraded GTR, (very unlikely) then you have enough car. -- Enjoy the 430 for the work of art it is not because it is a better hammer than a GTR.

Second, let me know how this turns out.. as I said, I'm mulling over the various possibilities myself.

 

No cars on your profile but yet you have a loud exhaust. Where is that noise coming from?