Barcelona testing Feb 18-20

An honest question to you (no intention to challenge):

Why do you care so much about Mercedes?

Is it because your hero Schu is driving for that team or do you really care about Mercedes? Just curious.

To me they're just another competitor and I "care" about them as much as I "care" about McLaren/Renault/Williams etc. Which is I like to see what they're doing, but not in the amount of passion and attention to detail you have for them.

 

You could switch it around and ask you why you have such problems with Mercedes or Schumacher in general?

You seem very anti in almost every post you make you know.

(no intention to challenge)

 

This is Ferrarichat. Not Mercedeschat or Schumacherchat.

I don't go onto any Schumacher or Mercedes blog sites telling them how the new Ferrari is doing and how much I like Alonso.

It is a free world and you guys can talk about MB and Schumacher as much as you like, but I'm just curious as to why and why on here?

PS: I don't mind Ferraripilot giving a constant play by play of all the changes and updates happening to the Merc, I just wonder what's the point? Who cares what a Benz does? As I said before, to me they're just another competitor.

 

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You certainly are free to talk about MB and MS. I just picked up on the frequency of your MB reports. But with your response you made it clear that it is Schumacher why you talk about Merc so much.

Amongst a bunch of other people, first and foremost Luca who changed things around after his arrival at Ferrari. Then there is Jean Todt and then there is the whole empire of Ferrari who made the turn around.

Ferrari existed as a major competitor in the entire history of F1. Long before there was a Schumacher or a Brawn. And they remain a major competitor long after the departure of these two.

Not me. I loved the guy from the day he performed miracles in the Minardi. He was a fresh wind into a stale F1 dominated by Schumacher's endless victories and championships. Alonso reminded me of how much fun watching F1 used to be when a young Schumacher challenged Senna and others. Nothing is more boring than watching the same guy win race after race, whether that is Senna, Schumacher or Alonso (not that Alonso is doing that right now).

Outch!
I'm 100% with Enzo who didn't want a single driver getting more glory than his beloved cars. Ferrari doesn't need Schumacher or Brawn for their victories and championships as evidenced after the departure of these two (and also as evidenced by at least 3 successful decades in F1 without them).

You are certainly right on that one, but I never said he is just another competitor to me. I said that about Mercedes Benz (in reference to your many updates on the progress of the Benz).

The guy was paid handsomely by Ferrari to stick around and when they needed him to replace the injured Massa, he quickly tested the Ferrari, found it not worthy of himself and went to the competition to drive against the team he once declared "his family with which he wants to retire for good". I wasn't the only one who frowned upon this as one of the Ferraris thought it necessary to publicly state that "it was ok for MS to now race against Ferrari".

 

Really? I thought we were in Toyotachat.com? sorry about that then...

This is the F1 section you know. I don´t know if you noticed but in F1 there a number of different teams, not just Ferrari.

I think the difference between you and me is we appreciate the sport in totally different ways.

I appreciate everything the sport has to offer including the other teams. you appreciate Ferrari, that´s about it.

I´m not rooting for Mercedes but i sure enjoy reading Ferraripilot´s updates on how the Mercedes team is doing. If you look at some of my replies i´m just as skeptical about their pace as you.

I´m a F1 fan. Your a Ferrari fan. This is the F1 section. You, me and Ferraripilot fit right in.

I care about Schumacher, he has done so much for Ferrari yet to you guys almost treat him like **** basically. Just because he doesn´t walk around in red anymore.

I would love for someone to give me updates and thoughts about all the teams in F1 here. But now we have Ferraripilot only and i appreciate that because it lets me discuss what i find interesting about the Mercedes and Schumacher/Rosberg.

I can totally understand your a Ferrari fan, i am to. But i´m a F1 fan even more and i would like to know what´s going on with ALL teams, not just Ferrari.

 

You really don't know me. At all.

 

I think i do actually. When it comes to Ferrari/F1 that is.

 

Then explain this statement I just made:

If you had been on FChat a bit longer, you'd have seen the endless battles I fought with the "real tifosi", guys like Franco who loved nothing more than Ferrari.

To me F1 and the driver comes first, the team second. It just happens right now that my universe is in perfect alignment as my favorite driver races for my favorite team.

But even my favorite driver will eventually loose my support once he has clinched a title with Ferrari because F1 comes first. And it is not good for F1 to have the same guy winning all the time. At some point I'll be no longer rooting for Alonso, just as I stopped rooting for Schumacher.

 

Actually I can: Who hired Brawn and Schumacher? Luca

Who turned the lukewarm car production with the "plastic" 348 around? Luca




And no, I'm not a Luca fan through and through because I totally disagree with his "Italians first" policy.

 

Don't worry guys when Alonso gets another WDC, Andreas will be rooting for Vettel.

 

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I think you know by now that I highly respect MS and I'm also very proud of a 1/1 MS replica helmet signed by the man in my collection. And I've criticized Alonso (Spa was a stupid mistake and Abu Dhabi was pretty miserable too).

Without opposing viewpoints, there would be nothing to discuss and this forum a ghost town.

 

Absolutely.

 

LOL see I know ya..

 

Schumacher and Brawn were absolutely instrumental in turning the Scuderia around. But they didn't do it alone.

To quote Bertold Brecht: "Cesar conquered Gaul. Didn't he have at least a cook with him?"

 

Then what is F1 to you? For me it´s the teams and drivers. The paddock stuff i couldn´t care less about even though it´s part of the circus.

So you like a guy until he wins a title? To me that sounds like a very strange way if your really a fan of the driver.

If i really enjoy a driver i´ll support him until the day he quits

The thing that bugs me with you ( not you personally obviously) is that you watch your TV, see Schumi struggling and then say "oh he´s to old, he´s burned out etc"

When things like telemetry and other stuff says the exact opposite. Instead of really finding out why he´s struggling you think that a guy just loses his talent because he doesn´t race for three years.

Again, nothing personal towards you at all, i just question your way of "supporting" drivers.

 

I think your forgetting two very important points that led to the Ferrari domination aswell.

1. Money
2. Bridgestone tyres.

 

Fixed.