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Oil Shelf Life

Discussion in 'Technical Q&A' started by alex360S, Feb 22, 2011.

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  1. alex360S

    alex360S Formula Junior

    Oct 30, 2006
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    Getting ready to do annual fluid changes for 2nd time. I have enough Redline motor and gear oil left over from last year. It's been stored in a cool,dark place. Is it safe to use un-opened oil conatiners that are a year old or should I just order a new batch?
     
  2. JohnnyS

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    It's as good as the day you bought it. Use without any worry.
     
  3. alex360S

    alex360S Formula Junior

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    Thanks
     
  4. GordonC

    GordonC F1 Rookie
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    Ditto. Brake fluid is hygroscopic (absorbs moisture from the air), and shouldn't be used if it's been opened for more than 6 months or so. Even in the plastic containers, I wouldn't use brake fluid off the shelf unopened if older than 1 year, as the plastic containers aren't completely impermeable.

    Engine oil and transmission oil, though, will be good for years if unused, even if opened and exposed to air.
     
  5. FasterIsBetter

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    Double ditto. Yeah, what they said.
     
  6. FerrariChallenged

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    Transmission fluid starts to break down over time, with the additives settling into the bottom in a solidified state. I know this because I had some factory MB fluid stored for about 5 to 7 years that was never opened. It could be shaken to attempt to remix, but I don't know if I would recommend it for use. I also had some factory Toyota ATF that was about 10 years old, when I dumped it after the MB experience, it looked ok, but I didn't want to risk using it due to the age. I haven't figured out the exact timeline on when this started happening, but for personal use, I don't think I would want to keep any fluid with additives stored for more than 2 years.
     
  7. AceMaster

    AceMaster Three Time F1 World Champ

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    only being 1-year on your shelf, you should be fine
     
  8. Danny E

    Danny E Rookie

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    one year is not a problem at all for oil, but never use brake fluid from an open container or if the seal is broken (you wouldnt drink a snapple if the seal was broken) so dont feed your car any fluids if the seal is broken.
     
  9. kart

    kart Karting

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    A friend of mine has a case of castrol gtx from 1989. We are planning to put it in his 1989 F150 next week... but we will save one can sealed to keep as a conversation piece on a coffee table. : )
     
  10. noonblueapples

    noonblueapples Karting

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    I remember reading that motor oil can go bad if left for prolonged periods below freezing. (?)
     
  11. Whisky

    Whisky Three Time F1 World Champ
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    yet it's been in the ground for millions of years - they say.
     
  12. f355spider

    f355spider F1 World Champ
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    Seems rather foolish. New oils are generally far superior to the older stuff, plus how could 22 year old oil possibly be any good?...save them all for display, or if you must, to oil your bicycle chain... ;)
     
  13. Glassman

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    Wow, we're really screwed up here in Montana.
     
  14. dakharris

    dakharris Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Well, the pros will tell you to throw away any leftover brake fluid in a can because it has contacted air and absorbed moisture. My problem with that is, what about the brake fluid in the car? You have to pour it through the air into the reservoir where it sits in a system that is not air tight. In a Ferrari, it can sit for days, weeks or months without use. If you are looking to maximize performance you have to flush, replace and bleed your brake system immediately before tracking.
     
  15. noonblueapples

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    What I read was abot detergent oil, that freezing ruins the waxes in it(?)


    I never looked into the validity of that, and I have an unheated garage so anything out there freezes
     
  16. rydermike

    rydermike Formula Junior

    Mar 27, 2010
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    PURE Synthetics may be ok after a while , but dino based oils certainly are not ! They have many properties that do break down in time , just as gasoline does .
     

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