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  1. Ferraripilot

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    #76 Ferraripilot, Feb 20, 2011
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    commentary from someone in the stands at testing today:



    - McLaren locked wheel each time at turn 10. Appart that, it don't move at all.
    - Williams and Sauber pretty quick
    - Red Bull and Ferrari like on a railtrack



    The above comments are interesting although I would have much preferred to hear about what was happening at nasty turn 9. That quick right-hander is rough.
     
  2. Ferraripilot

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    Some extremely interesting information with Webber and Massa's full race runs today

    Webber ------- Massa
    01:29.774 ---- 01:31.409
    01:29.875 ---- 01:31.021
    01:30.196 ---- 01:31.654
    01:31.404 ---- 01:31.407
    01:32.058 ---- 01:31.550
    01:32.025 ---- 01:32.125
    01:32.473 ---- 01:32.141
    01:33.268 ---- 01:31.583
    00:00.000 ---- 01:37.390
    00:00.000 ---- 01:32.492
    01:27.457 ---- 01:32.521
    01:27.993 ---- 01:32.624
    01:28.969 ---- 01:32.800
    01:29.834 ---- 01:32.990
    01:30.212 ---- 01:33.893
    01:30.879 ---- 01:33.967
    01:31.176 ---- 01:34.406
    01:31.369 ---- 00:00.000
    01:31.957 ---- 00:00.000
    01:32.406 ---- 01:29.289
    01:32.636 ---- 01:28.639
    01:33.251 ---- 01:33.876
    01:33.639 ---- 01:29.749
    00:00.000 ---- 01:30.024
    00:00.000 ---- 01:30.092
    01:29.941 ---- 01:30.018
    01:29.678 ---- 01:29.991
    01:29.853 ---- 01:30.178
    01:30.345 ---- 01:30.287
    01:30.818 ---- 01:30.345
    01:30.246 ---- 01:30.758
    01:30.864 ---- 01:31.459
    01:30.431 ---- 01:31.874
    01:30.600 ---- 01:32.471
    01:30.770 ---- 00:00.000
    01:30.613 ---- 00:00.000
    01:32.648 ---- 01:28.227
    01:31.842 ---- 01:36.578
    01:31.337 ---- 01:27.835
    01:31.140 ---- 01:28.118
    01:32.396 ---- 01:28.302
    01:32.545 ---- 01:28.702
    01:32.364 ---- 01:29.071
    01:33.610 ---- 01:28.947
    01:33.249 ---- 01:28.981
    00:00.000 ---- 01:29.302
    00:00.000 ---- 01:29.288
    01:24.995 ---- 01:29.495
    01:28.324 ---- 01:29.966
    01:29.115 ---- 01:30.148
    01:28.402 ---- 00:00.000
    01:28.341 ---- 00:00.000
    01:28.375 ---- 01:31.551
    01:29.036 ---- 01:26.508
    01:28.564 ---- 01:26.990
    01:29.046 ---- 01:31.452
    01:29.465 ---- 01:27.358
    01:28.664 ---- 01:27.465
    01:29.138 ---- 01:27.665
    01:32.022 ---- 01:28.348
    01:29.261 ---- 01:28.473
    01:30.155 ---- 01:28.962
    01:29.862 ---- 01:32.195
    01:30.341 ---- 01:28.080
    01:30.752 ---- 01:28.140
    00:00.000 ---- 00:00.000

    1:29:01.999 vs 1:29:01.170


    yeah, it's that close.
     
  3. Ferraripilot

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    #78 Ferraripilot, Feb 21, 2011
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    Massa with a 1m22.625. I knew they would break 1:22 today which was pulled on a 1 lap run.
     
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    And the rumors are are about MB and their KERS system. They have pretty much been running without it. COnfirmed by Haug today. I suspect cooling issues. Still, they're pretty quick without it.
     
  5. Ferraripilot

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    More comparison stuffs.

    14:57 Massa Outlap - 1:28.5 - 1:29.0 - 1:29.5 - 1:29.3 - 1:29.6 - 1:29.7 - 1:29.8 - 1:29.8 - 1:30.1 - 1:30.2 - 1:30.3 - 1:30.3 - 1:30.3 - 1:30.8 - 1:31.5 - Inlap

    14:54 Schumacher Outlap - 1:27.6 - 1:27.8 - 1:28.2 - 1:28.0 - 1:28.8 - 1:29.7 - 1:28.7 - 1:28.9 - 1:29.4 - 1:29.3 -1:29.6 - 1:30.3 - 1:30.8 - 1:31.3 - Inlap
     
  6. Phenom

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    Tyres, fuel?
     
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    Not having a KERS might cause them some trouble during the race trying to pass.
     
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    I'm sure their new sidepods will address the issue. I can't imagine they would even consider running how they have it now with the giant slots cut in the top of them.
     
  9. Ferraripilot

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    Hah. NO idea although I suspect hards or mediums due to the times not taking a significant dive after the first lap.
     
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    And in the start. On some tracks i think you gained something like 75m or so.

    I don´t know how you can gain 75m but that´s what i remember.
     
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    Thanks for the details mate. I fully appreciate someone like you posting away lots of information like this. Cheers.
     
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    Interesting.

    And probably also as a defensive "weapon" against being passed.
     
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    AFAIK KERS is effective when the car has enough downforce on it, from when it was introduced, I thought it would only kick in when the car was doing over 100 Kph.

    From a standing start, not effective.

    However I stand to be corrected now in 2011 on this.
     
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    Yea that´s why Brawn GP and Red Bull were so nervous at starts ;)
    They knew they needed to get the perfect start to even have a chance of keeping the guys behind them.

    The bit that´s really interesting though is like you say, using it as a defensive weapon.

    We saw some of it in 09 when both guys pulled the KERS at the same time effectively keeping the guy behind.

    That´s why i don´t really care about the KERS system because they will cancel each other out since everybody know has it.

    But i guess that´s what the rear wing is for. If it will infact do the job they think.

    I
     
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    And how long does it take a F1 to get to 100 km/h? Less time than to read this response. ;)
     
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    #91 Phenom, Feb 21, 2011
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    KERS has a distinct advantage at starts aswell. You have alot more horsepower then the rest. And this was in 09.
    And a number of team principals including Christian Horner can vouch for this.

    It´s the same system as in 11 as in 09.
     
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    Yeh I know just saying..........:)
     
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    More wheel spin ...
     
  19. Phenom

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    Off the line for a few tenths. Then everybody without KERS will get overtaking easy before turn 1.

    Honestly i´m not making this up m8, KERS have a distinct advantage at starts. I think it was Horner who said it could be up to as much as 75m at some tracks.
     
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    #95 Phenom, Feb 21, 2011
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    Rosberg:

    The only downside to KERS in 09 was the extra weight. Now that´s cleared up so the ones without KERS this year is not in a very good position.
     
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    Yes no worries, I'am sure your right I read what I posted way back in 09 I think, when it was introduced, advantage 2 cars lengths.

    And low and behold Brawn blew everyone off without KERS, I'am all for it to be honest.

    Any team can buy a KERS unit AFAIK from any team that wishes to sell them one, for a set price I think, not sure what that is though.
     
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    yup, have no idea though which team sells.

    It´s a bit late to buy KERS systems now though. It must be incorporated as the design the car. Ferrari i think even put their system inside the fuel tank.
     
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    Pretty much everyone running KERS has the battery pack mounted below the fuel tank in some clever way.

    Word is the MB kers unit has been on and off so they can know what is working cooling-wise and what isn't.
     
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    Very interesting. The previous Bridgestone tires are being listed as 'too good' which is possibly correct, but they fail to mention that Pirelli is operating at the behest of the Fia's wishes to make tyres fall off more quickly.
     

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