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  1. Labman

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    #1 Labman, Mar 20, 2011
    '98 355 F1 Spider. New axle boot, new motor mounts, front bumper repaired/painted and skid plates added, new gearbox gaskets, new throwout bearing, new clutch, reconditioned flywheel, oil change, F1 fluid flushed and changed. Car is finally leak free. Ready to take delivery. All that was needed to do was do the re-learn procedure with the SD1 -no luck, SD2 - no luck, SD3 - no luck. Can't communicate with the gearbox ECU...WTF??? Why am I being punished like this??? All I want to do is drive my car and enjoy it. Very fed up. Now I know why people recommend standard shift over F1. Any ideas out there??? Has this happened to anyone else? I don't want to hear that my ECU is bad. Car is still at the shop as they are trying to diagnose the communication problem. Possibly a bad wire now. IDK. Pissed.
     
  2. AceMaster

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    #2 AceMaster, Mar 20, 2011
    Hang in there Steve...if you are deathly, that trumps everything....they will find the problem eventually ;)
     
  3. stuckinkuwait

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    #3 stuckinkuwait, Mar 20, 2011
    Who is doing the work on your car?
     
  4. DriveAfterDark

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    #4 DriveAfterDark, Mar 20, 2011
    I'm going to be hated for saying this but it's almost scary how much trouble a '98 model is giving you. I know it's 13 years old, but I figured most quirks would have been taken care off by the later models.
     
  5. Labman

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    #5 Labman, Mar 20, 2011
    I jumped the gun! The problem was a bad power wire to the ECU. There was a staple through it that was shorting it out. All ok. Guys were working on it on a Sunday! Good thing for schematic diagrams. Hats off to the guys at Bradan!
     
  6. ernie

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    #6 ernie, Mar 20, 2011
    Glad to hear you go it figured out. But how in the heck did a staple get into the wiring?
     
  7. PAP 348

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    #7 PAP 348, Mar 20, 2011
    Those pesky broken wires! :eek::eek:
     
  8. DriveAfterDark

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    #8 DriveAfterDark, Mar 20, 2011
    +1
     
  9. Night life

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    #9 Night life, Mar 21, 2011
    PHEW! good to hear :)
     
  10. mwr4440

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    #10 mwr4440, Mar 21, 2011
    No kidding. Good Question.


    We used to intentionally sabotage electronic wiring/landline communications wire that way.


    This one is hard to believe ...... Not the staple but WHY it was there. Oh .... heck YES, the staple too.

    :confused:
     
  11. Labman

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    #11 Labman, Mar 21, 2011
    Seems like at one point someone tried to secure the cable going to the ECU with a staple or screw. Stupid idea and look what happened. They had to check pin by pin (I think there were 40 of them) to find out which wire did not have power. If I would have brought the car to Ferrari they would have thrown parts at it and the first I'm sure would have been the gearbox ECU...$3300. "Whew" is an understatement!
     
  12. chas-3

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    #12 chas-3, Mar 21, 2011
    Gotta love your local independent! :D
     
  13. vvassallo

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    #13 vvassallo, Mar 21, 2011
    I thought the staple as the owner's attempt at F1 murder! :)
     
  14. AceMaster

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    #14 AceMaster, Mar 21, 2011
    +2
     
  15. f355spider

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    #15 f355spider, Mar 21, 2011
    Glad to hear you got a proper diagnosis...that is the sign of a quality shop! :)
     
  16. Ferris Bueller

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    #16 Ferris Bueller, Mar 21, 2011
    Steve,
    looks like the guys at Brandan got you all sorted out.
    glad to hear it wasnt major.
     
  17. BRADAN

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    #17 BRADAN, Mar 22, 2011
    This repair was not fun haha. The car worked fine but when it came time to program after installing a new clutch the ECU would not let us gain access. We tried multiple SD testers hoping it was just our old SD1 at fault.

    A continuity test was preformed pin by pin until a dead power source wire was found. At some point a sheetrock screw was used to secure the ECU covers behind the driver seat. The screw went into the wiring harness. Once removed the wire went dead leaving us stranded.

    Thank you to rifledriver and Dave helms for bouncing back a few suggestions.

    Photos of the installation can be found at the following link.

    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=314608
     
  18. vvassallo

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    #18 vvassallo, Mar 22, 2011
    Hey what was the Ferrari part number of that sheet rock screw? :p
     
  19. chatham33

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    #19 chatham33, Mar 22, 2011
    The answer is: they only come in bags of one hundred; however, they are sold as "each" from a pricing standpoint; and please, if you have to ask the price you should not be driving the car!! Just pass your credit card over the counter and TRUST US!!
     
  20. BRADAN

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    #20 BRADAN, Mar 22, 2011
    Stereo shops tend to throw them in for free with most installations.
     
  21. Simba

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    #21 Simba, Mar 22, 2011
    You bought a car with flappies. ;)
     
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    #22 pearsonhaus, Mar 22, 2011
    +1
     
  23. UConn Husky

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    #23 UConn Husky, Mar 22, 2011
    Good to hear! LOVE the F1!!!! :D
     
  24. plugzit

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    #24 plugzit, Mar 22, 2011
    Sometimes it's just a question of a "different set of eyes" to solve a problem.
     
  25. Labman

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    #25 Labman, Mar 22, 2011
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    Hats off to the guys at Bradan. A sheetrock screw. Of all f-----g things! Took her home today and she shifts better than ever! I take back what I said about the F1. All the enjoyment came back to me as I was shifting thru the gears while cruising down the Long Island Expressway. Also helps that I didn't have to spring for a $3300 gearbox ECU!!! Forza Ferrari!
     

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