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2011 Formula One Results **SPOILERS**

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  1. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    Practice one

    Pos No Driver Team Time/Retired Gap Laps
    1 2 Mark Webber RBR-Renault 1:26.831
    2 1 Sebastian Vettel RBR-Renault 1:27.158 0.327
    3 5 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:27.749 0.918
    4 8 Nico Rosberg Mercedes GP 1:28.152 1.321
    5 11 Rubens Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 1:28.430 1.599
    6 4 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:28.440 1.609
    7 3 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:28.483 1.652
    8 7 Michael Schumacher Mercedes GP 1:28.690 1.859
    9 16 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1:28.725 1.894
    10 10 Vitaly Petrov Renault 1:28.765 1.934
    11 6 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:28.842 2.011
    12 9 Nick Heidfeld Renault 1:28.928 2.097
    13 14 Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1:29.314 2.483
    14 18 Sebastien Buemi STR-Ferrari 1:29.328 2.497
    15 12 Pastor Maldonado Williams-Cosworth 1:29.403 2.572
    16 19 Daniel Ricciardo STR-Ferrari 1:29.468 2.637
    17 17 Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 1:29.643 2.812
    18 15 Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 1:31.002 4.171
    19 20 Heikki Kovalainen Lotus-Renault 1:32.428 5.597
    20 25 Jerome d'Ambrosio Virgin-Cosworth 1:35.282 8.451
    21 24 Timo Glock Virgin-Cosworth 1:35.289 8.458
    22 21 Karun Chandhok Lotus-Renault
    23 22 Narain Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth
    24 23 Vitantonio Liuzzi HRT-Cosworth
     
  2. Aircon

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    Pos No Driver Team Time/Retired Gap Laps
    1 4 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:25.854
    2 3 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:25.986 0.132
    3 5 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:26.001 0.147
    4 1 Sebastian Vettel RBR-Renault 1:26.014 0.160
    5 2 Mark Webber RBR-Renault 1:26.283 0.429
    6 7 Michael Schumacher Mercedes GP 1:26.590 0.736
    7 6 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:26.789 0.935
    8 17 Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 1:27.101 1.247
    9 11 Rubens Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 1:27.280 1.426
    10 8 Nico Rosberg Mercedes GP 1:27.448 1.594
    11 19 Jaime Alguersuari STR-Ferrari 1:27.525 1.671
    12 10 Vitaly Petrov Renault 1:27.528 1.674
    13 9 Nick Heidfeld Renault 1:27.536 1.682
    14 18 Sebastien Buemi STR-Ferrari 1:27.697 1.843
    15 16 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1:28.095 2.241
    16 15 Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1:28.376 2.522
    17 14 Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1:28.583 2.729
    18 12 Pastor Maldonado Williams-Cosworth 1:29.386 3.532
    19 20 Heikki Kovalainen Lotus-Renault 1:30.829 4.975
    20 21 Jarno Trulli Lotus-Renault 1:30.912 5.058
    21 25 Jerome d'Ambrosio Virgin-Cosworth 1:32.106 6.252
    22 24 Timo Glock Virgin-Cosworth 1:32.135 6.281
    23 23 Vitantonio Liuzzi HRT-Cosworth
    24 22 Narain Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth
     
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    Pos No Driver Team Time/Retired Gap Laps
    1 1 Sebastian Vettel RBR-Renault 1:24.507 15
    2 2 Mark Webber RBR-Renault 1:25.364 0.857 14
    3 3 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:25.553 1.046 15
    4 4 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:25.567 1.060 16
    5 10 Vitaly Petrov Renault 1:25.906 1.399 18
    6 5 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:26.121 1.614 16
    7 16 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1:26.417 1.910 17
    8 8 Nico Rosberg Mercedes GP 1:26.520 2.013 17
    9 9 Nick Heidfeld Renault 1:26.746 2.239 17
    10 7 Michael Schumacher Mercedes GP 1:26.856 2.349 15
    11 18 Sebastien Buemi STR-Ferrari 1:27.008 2.501 17
    12 6 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:27.011 2.504 15
    13 19 Jaime Alguersuari STR-Ferrari 1:27.066 2.559 14
    14 15 Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1:27.087 2.580 15
    15 14 Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1:27.180 2.673 15
    16 11 Rubens Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 1:28.068 3.561 7
    17 17 Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 1:28.077 3.570 9
    18 20 Heikki Kovalainen Lotus-Renault 1:29.772 5.265 17
    19 21 Jarno Trulli Lotus-Renault 1:30.003 5.496 18
    20 24 Timo Glock Virgin-Cosworth 1:30.261 5.754 15
    21 12 Pastor Maldonado Williams-Cosworth 1:30.496 5.989 5
    22 25 Jerome d'Ambrosio Virgin-Cosworth 1:30.704 6.197 18
    23 22 Narain Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth 1:41.554 17.047 5
    24 23 Vitantonio Liuzzi HRT-Cosworth No time 1
     
  4. Aircon

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    Qual.

    A bit deplessing if you're a Ferrari or MS fan

    Pos No Driver Team Q1 Q2 Q3 Laps
    1 1 Sebastian Vettel RBR-Renault 1:25.296 1:24.090 1:23.529 16
    2 3 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:25.384 1:24.595 1:24.307 19
    3 2 Mark Webber RBR-Renault 1:25.900 1:24.658 1:24.395 15
    4 4 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:25.886 1:24.957 1:24.779 18
    5 5 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:25.707 1:25.242 1:24.974 19
    6 10 Vitaly Petrov Renault 1:25.543 1:25.582 1:25.247 18
    7 8 Nico Rosberg Mercedes GP 1:25.856 1:25.606 1:25.421 17
    8 6 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:26.031 1:25.611 1:25.599 18
    9 16 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1:25.717 1:25.405 1:25.626 17
    10 18 Sebastien Buemi STR-Ferrari 1:26.232 1:25.882 1:27.066 15
    11 7 Michael Schumacher Mercedes GP 1:25.962 1:25.971 13
    12 19 Jaime Alguersuari STR-Ferrari 1:26.620 1:26.103 11
    13 17 Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 1:25.812 1:26.108 9
    14 15 Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1:27.222 1:26.739 16
    15 12 Pastor Maldonado Williams-Cosworth 1:26.298 1:26.768 17
    16 14 Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1:26.245 1:31.407 15
    17 11 Rubens Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 1:26.270 12
    18 9 Nick Heidfeld Renault 1:27.239 10
    19 20 Heikki Kovalainen Lotus-Renault 1:29.254 10
    20 21 Jarno Trulli Lotus-Renault 1:29.342 12
    21 24 Timo Glock Virgin-Cosworth 1:29.858 10
    22 25 Jerome d'Ambrosio Virgin-Cosworth 1:30.822 8
    23 23 Vitantonio Liuzzi HRT-Cosworth 1:32.978 11
    24 22 Narain Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth 1:34.293 11
     
  5. AKA

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    Should effect anyone around here then.

    Vettel was AMAZING.
     
  6. PAP 348

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    He was, he was.

    SOB! :D:D
     
  7. Aircon

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    Walk in the park for Verrel. Webber struggled. weird.
    Hamilton still a gun driver.
    Thrilling race for mercedes *cough(
     
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    Pos No Driver Team Laps Time/Retired Grid Pts
    1 1 Sebastian Vettel RBR-Renault 58 Winner 1 25
    2 3 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 58 +22.2 secs 2 18
    3 10 Vitaly Petrov Renault 58 +30.5 secs 6 15
    4 5 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 58 +31.7 secs 5 12
    5 2 Mark Webber RBR-Renault 58 +38.1 secs 3 10
    6 4 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 58 +54.3 secs 4 8
    7 17 Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 58 +65.8 secs 13 6
    8 16 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 58 +76.8 secs 9 4
    9 6 Felipe Massa Ferrari 58 +85.1 secs 8 2
    10 18 Sebastien Buemi STR-Ferrari 57 +1 Lap 10 1
    11 14 Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes +1 Lap
    12 15 Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes +1 Lap
    13 19 Jaime Alguersuari STR-Ferrari +1 Lap
    14 9 Nick Heidfeld Renault +1 Lap
    15 21 Jarno Trulli Lotus-Renault +2 Lap
    16 25 Jerome d'Ambrosio Virgin-Cosworth +4 Lap
    Ret 24 Timo Glock Virgin-Cosworth +9 Lap
    Ret 11 Rubens Barrichello Williams-Cosworth +10 Lap
    Ret 8 Nico Rosberg Mercedes GP +36 Laps
    Ret 20 Heikki Kovalainen Lotus-Renault +39 Laps
    Ret 7 Michael Schumacher Mercedes GP +39 Laps
    Ret 12 Pastor Maldonado Williams-Cosworth +49 Laps
     
  9. Buxton

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    Massa is making it difficult for hisself
     
  10. b27

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    Webber was comprehensively beaten by his team mate this weekend. A couple of good drives by the new kids on the block as well.
     
  11. 360C

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    Why was Webber not running KERS?
     
  12. Aircon

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    Neither Red Bull used KERS. They're not saying why.
     
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  15. SPEEDCORE

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    Hello from Melb :D
     
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    Vlaka!! :D:D
     
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    Updated results..


    Pos No Driver Team Laps Time/Retired Grid Pts
    1 1 Sebastian Vettel RBR-Renault 58 1:29:30.259 1 25
    2 3 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 58 +22.2 secs 2 18
    3 10 Vitaly Petrov Renault 58 +30.5 secs 6 15
    4 5 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 58 +31.7 secs 5 12
    5 2 Mark Webber RBR-Renault 58 +38.1 secs 3 10
    6 4 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 58 +54.3 secs 4 8
    7 6 Felipe Massa Ferrari 58 +85.1 secs 8 6
    8 18 Sebastien Buemi STR-Ferrari 57 +1 Lap 10 4
    9 14 Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 57 +1 Lap 16 2
    10 15 Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 57 +1 Lap 14 1
    11 19 Jaime Alguersuari STR-Ferrari 57 +1 Lap 12
    12 9 Nick Heidfeld Renault 57 +1 Lap 18
    13 21 Jarno Trulli Lotus-Renault 56 +2 Laps 20
    14 25 Jerome d'Ambrosio Virgin-Cosworth 54 +4 Laps 22
    NC 24 Timo Glock Virgin-Cosworth 49 +9 Laps 21
    DSQ 17 Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 58 +65.8 secs 13
    DSQ 16 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 58 +76.8 secs 9
    Ret 11 Rubens Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 48 Transmission 17
    Ret 8 Nico Rosberg Mercedes GP 22 Accident damage 7
    Ret 20 Heikki Kovalainen Lotus-Renault 19 Water leak 19
    Ret 7 Michael Schumacher Mercedes GP 19 Puncture damage 11
    Ret 12 Pastor Maldonado Williams-Cosworth 9 Transmission 15
    Perez and Kobayashi originally finished seventh and eighth, but were disqualified for rear wing infringements.
     
  19. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    Pity about Perez.
     
  20. Aircon

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    I like this guy.

    Andrew Davies hails the new red threat. Vitaly Petrov finally showed why Renault had so much faith in him...

    Star of the Race
    Vitaly Petrov, Renault, 3rd
    Apart from an absolutely stunning performance in qualifying, Vitaly had a brilliant start from the dirty side of the grid and drove an immaculate race. He didn't benefit from anybody falling off the road in front of him. At the end of the race when he came under pressure from Alonso he held on.

    It was a stunning result for the Russian. Jake Humphrey asked Renault boss Eric Boullier afterwards what he could have done with Robert Kubica in the car and Eric rightly said that he may not have beaten Vitaly today. Petrov's result is the most emphatic vindication of his decision to keep Russia's only F1 driver in the car.

    What's more, if Vitaly can get on the podium a whole lot more this season there is a shedload of money to be made from Compare the market.com (compare the meerkat.com). All Vitaly needs to do is end whatever he says about his race with the phrase "Simples" and he's got a cheeky free product placement. "I came up the inside of Jenson into Turn 1. Simples."

    Overtaking Move of the Race
    Lap 25, Jenson Button on Kamui Kobayashi
    This doesn't go into the book because it was an overtaking exemplar, or because it was dramatic and race-changing. It may not even have been the first, but it was the first one we saw 'live' in high definition. Jenson Button deployed his DRS to reduce the drag and overtake Kamui Kobayashi's Sauber down the Melbourne straight into Turn 1. It allowed him to progress, just as it allowed Alonso to progress, and gave more dimension to the race.

    Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull, 1st
    Vettel got away with it. On the one hand he managed to beat his KERS-equipped rivals without the benefit of the system - which could have made the gap to McLaren much bigger. On the other, he wasn't pressured by Lewis Hamilton who was closing on him up until the first tyre stops and whose damaged floor can't have aided the McLaren's performance. He also got past Jenson Button in a move that looked illegal at the time and was glossed over by the Red Bull apologist in the BBC commentary box (see Brundle + Coulthard).

    Lewis Hamilton, McLaren, 2nd
    The McLaren performance in Melbourne was staggering. Their revamped MP4-26 hadn't run a race distance (come to think of it, neither had Mark 1) yet both covered the 58 laps with only a bit of bodywork coming loose. To do so and still threaten Red Bull's pre-eminence was an amazing feat. Lewis Hamilton could easily have won this race.

    Fernando Alonso, Ferrari, 4th
    Not a bad day's work for Fernando, he was only a second away from a podium position. From fifth on the grid that's got to be satisfying, especially considering he was back in 9th place on the opening lap. His usual combination of remorseless speed

    Mark Webber, Red Bull, 5th
    Amazing to think that Mark Webber got the same result in the all-conquering Red Bull as he did in his Minardi all those years ago. It was a curious race for Webbo, like somebody had left the handbrake on the car. He has had enough side-by-side comparisons with Vettel to know that he isn't that much slower than the World Champion, especially on street circuits. Yet today it was like he was driving a different car. Maybe Helmut Marko is lending a hand in race preparation these days.

    A combination of slow teamwork and a small on-the-grass excursion gifted P4 to Ferrari at the final pit-stop and if performance is going to be close this year then these will be the difference between a bag-full of points

    Sergio Perez, Sauber DQ
    It's difficult to know how much the illegal Sauber wings aided their race pace but Perez had a brilliant debut by any standards. He lucked into a strategy that paid off and didn't make mistakes. A confident debut.

    DRS (Drag Reduction System)
    Before the start of the season we had dire predictions that the DRS rear wing was going to make F1 too easy and that overtaking would be commonplace. From the moment that Jenson Button failed to get the drag on Felipe Massa's Ferrari in the opening laps it was clear that you needed to have a lot of momentum and skill to get past the car in front. Make it too easy and it kills regular overtaking. Had Jenson breezed past, then the McLaren driver needn't have thought too hard about where he was going to overtake the next car on track, he'd just close the gap to the car in front, then use the straight. The difficulty in executing a DRS pass led to him trying elsewhere on the circuit and ultimately to far more entertainment.

    Losers
    Mercedes
    Through no fault of their own, the Mercedes team's involvement in the Australian GP was over after 23 laps. Their ambition to be the No.3 team in 2011 has taken a significant blow. With Renault performing so well, at this rate they'll be lucky to hang on to P4.

    Felipe Massa, Ferrari, 7th
    A fantastic start from Felipe - it was hard to credit that the red car in front of Jenson Button was Massa not Alonso, but the yellow helmet was the give-away. Full marks for feistiness, but he didn't look to have Alonso's speed in the race and it could have been a lot worse than 7th. As with Mark Webber, he started 2011 the way he ended 2010.

    Nick Heidfeld, Renault, 14th
    It's never good to go out in Q3 while your team-mate goes on to Q1 and grab a podium. Any more of this and the Renault team will start asking Robert Kubica for weekly progress reports.

    Rubens Barrichello, Williams-Cosworth, DNF
    He may have been the most experienced driver in the field but Rubens Barrichello was full of rookie mistakes throughout the OZ GP weekend. His overtaking move on Nico Rosberg that put the Mercedes driver out of the race should be stored on You Tube: The How Not To Overtake in F1 collection. It beggared belief that a driver of his skill and his experience could even attempt it. He may have produced a crafty move to get in front of Kobayashi, but this was real Formula Close-Your-Eyes stuff.

    Jenson Button, McLaren, 6th
    Jenson learned that patience is a virtue, especially if you're going to start badly and not cover your inside line. Button must have been looking at Alonso on his outside all the way down to Turn 1 because he left a barn door open which Petrov drove through.

    This ultimately allowed Massa through too and ruined his afternoon. Massa defended fairly and Jenson had no complaints about the robustness of it. His choice of the exit road should have prompted a call from the team straight away to let Massa back past. Martin Whitmarsh may have asked Race Control, but they've had experience in the past of Race Control saying one thing and the Stewards saying another.

    The stewards then delivered a drive-through penalty and it was a lesson learned. The good thing was that Jenson looked like he had the pace to challenge along with Lewis Hamilton and that can only be good news for the races ahead.

    Race Stewards
    We were told that stewards were going to clamp down on overtaking moves made off the track this year. It didn't happen. Button's misdemeanour was an easy one to spot, but they should have hauled Vettel back and even worse, they ignored Buemi's overtaking move on Sutil that was made outside of the yellow lines.

    Brundle and Coulthard
    Oh dear. What a mistake this has been. Brundle and Coulthard in the commentary box delivered such a lopsided performance that it's difficult to know how the BBC can continue with it for much longer. And it's not a question of giving them time to improve either, the information given out through the race was adequate enough. Two drivers chatting together. Very cosy.

    However the kind of person reading this column is deep enough into the sport to know what's going on in the race at any time. It would be interesting to see what a novice F1 fan made of it all, because neither commentator bothered to summarise what had gone on through the race, what the positions were, what the developments had been. It was a commentary of two fans with a lot of insight, not a professional commentary that filled the gaps for casual viewers. Jonathan Legard and James Allen may not have been Murray Walker, but at least they filled the gaps with what Martin Brundle maybe thought was inane banter.

    The worst thing is, and this is the reason why it shouldn't be allowed to continue, is that David Coulthard is still employed by Red Bull and Mercedes (in DTM) so he is a partial commentator.

    If you're a pundit giving an opinion that's fine, viewers can factor in the natural spin that he brings to comments about Red Bull. During a race commentary he has to be absolutely objective. He is a recorder of fact.

    I'm not a fan of any particular team but if I were a McLaren fan I'd be offended by the sheer glee at which David predicted that Lewis Hamilton's car was going to grind itself into the tarmac and become illegal by the end of the race. Perhaps he was trying to add to the drama by bigging it up. Whatever, we can't suspend our view because we've heard him fighting the Red Bull cause for too long now.

    The other point to note was that Coulthard was very light on Sebastian Vettel when he drove off the road for an illegal move on Jenson Button. Vettel and Buemi should both have given places back in the race. Vettel was only able to drive past Button at the speed he did because he had no intention of sticking to the race track on the exit of the bend. What's the point of employing two ex-grand prix drivers when a 12-year-old Physics student could have pointed that one out. Coulthard immediately went into PR mode and covered for his Red Bull colleague by suggesting all four wheel didn't cross the yellow line. Replays after the race showed they were miles outside the yellow line.

    Commentators have to be neutral or they become a problem and Coulthard is a problem already. He has to quit at least one of his day jobs.

    Andrew Davies

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  21. SPEEDCORE

    SPEEDCORE Four Time F1 World Champ

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    PAP took this video but I had the misfortune to sit next to him so I decided to upload it to youtube :p:p

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo_rIWXqiUk[/ame]
     
  22. PAP 348

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    Bloody fast cars! :eek::eek:
     
  23. Aircon

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    Webber and Vettel doing the same as in Oz.
     
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