Last time the pitwall got it right ?

seriously...i can't remember.

the number of wins and podiums that they've conspired to lose since the beginning of the '08 season is staggering...

when was the last time Ferrari outfoxed the rest ?

i guess the easy answer is before Brawn left...but is that the right answer ?

i'm asking the question seriously...can anyone remember the last time Ferrari got it right...first ?

 

Monza, 2010. Perfect pit timing and perfect pit performance. I must admit however that Monza was an easy race for them.

 

It seems they are back to operating by habit and/or emotion.

 

Without looking into it, this was the most recent result I could think of as well.

 

Germany 2000. They told Rubens to stay out on drys while it started raining on parts of the circuit and everyone panicked and came into change to wets. Rubens stayed out and won his first GP. I think it was the last time Ferrari (Brawn) made the right call under those types of conditions; contrast that with Malaysia 2010-"but the computer said it is going to stop raining" lol....

BTW, Rubens started 18th and won the race as opposed to that slacker Webber, who could only manage a measly third place in China!!! LOL!

 

ok, sure...better than nothing i suppose...it was certainly a well executed race...
but, as you've suggested, it wasn't exactly 'out foxing' the field or making the decisive move first though...

i'm hoping that they can quickly warm up to the idea that, all things being equal (operating window, track position,traffic, etc.) you need to be the the first guy in, not the last guy in, to gain the advantage.
it's like nobody in the current team ever saw a race during Berger's first stint or when Mansell drove their cars...
i know hindsight is 20/20...but Jesus Christ, leaving Massa out there just to lead for a couple laps was like watching a train wreck in slow motion...really, what did they think was happening ? nevermind the 2 stop strategy...

i wasn't one of those who immediately called for Domenicali's head on a pole...
but how long do they stubbornly stick with something that doesn't work ?
it really hurts to say it, but they really must be the laughing stock of the pit lane...no ?

 

Sorry to step in to this conversation but I sincerely don't think Domenicali has anything to do with Pit or Race Strategy. I don't think he decides anything. I don't think he has the capacity to understand race strategy or the capacity to run a team. Actually, I don't think anyone on that pit wall decides anything. The plan is drawn up even before the race weekend starts.... This is what we are going to do if we start in P1, P2, P3, P4 and so on... No one challenges those plans during the weekend. No one thinks about changing or adapting the strategy to the situation.

Domenicali is probably as important as this guy as far as strategy is concerned:
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The whole thing is depressing to the point where 2011 is a complete loss and they just needs to start from scratch for 2012 with a young dynamic team principal and two new drivers. Alsonso, Massa and Domenicali do not have a single championship title left within them. Certainly not under the Scuderia anyway!

 

just more of same...they just can't get out of their own way for a single race...both drivers compromised again yesterday.

it seems inconceivable to me that Alonso would extend his contract with this current group...i hope he got assurenes that certain heads were rolling for '12.

 

We chatted briefly with one of Alonso's mechanics in the elevator in Montreal on Saturday evening; his overall attitude was not one of confidence, even starting from the front row. Seems to me that the team has been in a slow death spiral since the MS/Brawn/Todt triumvirate were disbanded, and I agree about the number of points they have thrown away in the last few years due to poor strategy.

 

The team lacks leadership. Simple as that. Sack Stefano.

 

Hate to say it but +1.

I find it really depressing that the car is actually not that bad and it runs in front of the McLarens often enough but the team seem to conspire to let it fail. I think Alonso is still doing a good job but Massa can't pass anyone if his life depended on it - he has not been the same since his accident.

I wanted Ferrari to hire Vettel three years ago. Oh well. Seems the dark years are approaching.


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Massa was playing it safe. I don't recall seeing Fred overtake so many other as well at Montreal.

Thing is the whole is is disillusioned. One time they're fast, and the next they're slow. The low point was Spain. It seemed to me, they just don't know how to recover from such setbacks.

Monaco was a fluke, so will be Valencia the following. Well, FWIW, the title is definitely over for us this season.

 

with '09 being the exception, all the cars have been good under Costa's direction...
but the overwhelming lion's share of calls from the pitwall have been brutal.

yes, Massa isn't the same...but he has been pushing like hell the past 2 weekends.
unfortunately, i think it's just desperation...because he wasn't nearly as ragged when he was matching (or beating) Schumacher or Raikkonen.

'08 was a terrible shame for him...his title would have been well earned, but he was let down badly by the team on too many occasions.
the blown motor at the end of his brilliant Hungaroring drive and the fuel rig hose following him down the pitlane at Valencia (?) come to mind...but there were more.

they'll be competitive in Valencia, as it's a street circuit with characteristics like the last 2...but, yes, the season is long, long gone.

 

I would say that it was when Todt was the team principle, the year Kimi won the title.