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  1. xraes

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    #1 xraes, Apr 20, 2011
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    http://www.lamborghinihouston.com/vehicle_details.aspx?id=1035&CAR=Ferrari-F430-F1-Spider

    Not exactly the car I'm looking for, tan not cuoio, no interior carbon fibre, but it's close. The dealer called me today and said the prior deal fell through. I don't have any service history on the car yet but he did say everything is in order and available. Assuming that to be true (I won't assume anything), curious what you all think is a fair price and anything specifically I should ask/ be concerned about? While I'm thinking about it, Ferrari aftermarket full interior carbon fibre package installed price - 10-12K?

    Thanks in advance.

    Rodney
     
  2. rocketman

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    #2 rocketman, Apr 20, 2011
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    That car was listed on their site for quite a long time and when it didn't sell it was then it was listed on Motorcars International for awhile.

    They eventually listed it as sold but now I seriously question whether it truly was ever sold.

    Seems to me they took it off the market for awhile and now it's back.
     
  3. blackbolt22

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    If it's not what you're looking for, then take a pass on this one. My .02.

    I would not settle for anything except exactly what I wanted.
     
  4. Bill2

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    I would think $155k should buy it.
     
  5. xraes

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    Thanks Bill-
    Makes me feel better if I make an offer.
     
  6. xraes

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    Just a friendly bump. Dealer called today but I decided to sit on things over the long weekend.
    Any input appreciated.

    Rodney
     
  7. andrewmr

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    Wait for the car you want. Nothing worse than feeling you settled.
     
  8. ELP_JC

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    You have to be a little bit flexible if you don't want to wait forever, but having said that, you need to come up with a list of 'must have' features/options you absolutely want, then the options you'd like, in order of preference. And also your price ceiling. You can also write a list of options (or combination of options) that are deal breakers, and just let that list make the decision for you. Good luck.
     
  9. TheMayor

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    Silver/Cuoio could be a pretty long wait.
     
  10. Need4Spd

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    #10 Need4Spd, Apr 22, 2011
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    +1. You probably have seen Cuoio in person, but if you haven't you should before deciding on waiting for a car with it. It is beautiful but buttery light and looks like it would easily get soiled. I don't think I have ever seen a silver/Cuoio car. Silver/black, silver/grey, silver/red, silver/dark blue, silver/tan, yes, probably in that order of commonality. Here is a Cuoio interior on a 612.
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  11. xraes

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    #11 xraes, Apr 22, 2011
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    This is not the interior color I'm looking for, maybe Sabbia?

    This is cuoio, as far as I understand - I have seen it in person. I guess that is some of my uncertainty - how often will a car in this color combo., well taken care of, right price, etc. come along? I've seen a few, but nearly in the numbers of red/ tan, black/ black.
    For now, I believe I'll try to exercise some patience (not always my strong suit) and enjoy the hunt!

    Rodney
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  12. xraes

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    Good news first - found the car I'm looking for last night

    http://www.ferrariofsandiego.com/San+Diego-Ferrari-2007-Ferrari-430-Spider-ZFFEW59A670156178-used.html

    Bad news, by my estimation it's WAY over-priced ( approx. 20K). If I'm wrong on the price, please let me know. I have no idea what this dealership's willingness to negotiate the price would be, but if I'm correct, I don't feel like even calling them as it seems we'd be starting out much too far apart on price.
    Any insight appreciated.


    Rodney
     
  13. needspeed

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    AutoTrader 2007 F430 Spider asking prices
    Range of prices within this search:

    Highest Price: $229,995 car has 350 miles.....so sad
    Lowest Price: $152,888
    Average Price: $179,519

    Looks like comp milage cars to the one you picked are in the 180s.....good luck.....Steve
     
  14. TheMayor

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    Just buy the damn thing. Stop dreaming or asking us for permission.


    Is this the car you want? Make an offer, take it home and start to live instead of wondering what could have been.
     
  15. S Brake

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    That ain't Cuoio.
     
  16. G-NYC

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    Better to make an offer than wonder if they were firm on price. If you think $175k is fair, then you aren't way off... even if you met their ask you'd be "overpaying" by only 10% according to your definition of fair value.... which is not too bad if it's the car you want in good condition with a rare color combo and you can have it now... in two months you may decide the two months of ownership were worth 20k instead of waiting around....
     
  17. Bill2

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    That dealer is dreaming, or it's a consigned car and the owner is not dealing in reality. That being said, a realistic offer should be in the $155k to $160k range. If you get it for around that range you will have paid the current market price. Maybe $165k because YOU love the color combo.

    Good luck.
     
  18. xraes

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    Not sure where you got I was asking for permission, I wear big boy pants, but thanks for your helpful insight.

    Rodney
     
  19. xraes

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    Thanks Bill-
    Just wanted feedback that the current asking price is not market value.


    Rodney
     
  20. TheMayor

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    Sorry but I disagree. That car has a lot of CF options and CCB's. If you think that has no value, fine. But, in my book, that does make it worth more than your plain jane Red/Tan F430 you're comparing it to.

    To the OP: take my advice. It's your money. Make and offer you want to pay and take it home. If this is the car you've been searching for don't let anyone here spoil your dreams or make you pass because THEY think you're overpaying.

    If you buy it for the price you want to pay, you're not overpaying.
     
  21. TheMayor

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    Except he's wrong.
     
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    #22 TheMayor, Apr 24, 2011
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    Because what happens in all these price checks is people chime in and tell others how to spend their money.

    You are a big boy. You know what you want to pay. You know what it's worth. Asking people here for their "advice" is like asking someone on match.com if you should marry.

    This is your dream. Don't let people get in your head. If you like this car, make an offer. If you think you can wait or buy another car at a lower price or you think it's too much for wanting exactly that car, that's your decision. But, to let someone here look at some photos and tell you it's too much money is a sure way to get some poor advice.

    What are you looking for in your question? Are you looking for someone to agree with the idea that's it's overpriced? You'll get 20 people here to agree with that easily. They'd still say that if the price were 50 grand cheaper.

    This is not a game on how cheap you can buy a Ferrari. This is finding the right car that you'll love and can afford.

    You found the car you want. Make an offer and buy it.

    BTW: I think that color combo and CF trim is outstanding. That engine compartment has about 20 grand of CF alone.
     
  23. Simon^2

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    My $0.02...

    Price does seem a bit high...

    But the car is well spec'd and gorgeous.

    I would have no problem paying a premium for the car of my dreams. It would take a drastic discount to get me to by a car that wasn't perfect.
     
  24. S Brake

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    +1

    I'd also be willing to pay a premium for a car that was spec'd perfectly.
    But for me that would be TdF/Cuoio with black daytona inserts.
     
  25. ELP_JC

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    #25 ELP_JC, Apr 24, 2011
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    No way that car is worth what they're asking, nor would I personally pay that even if it's what I'm looking for, BUT you definitely have to budget above market value for a hard-to-find car, especially with expensive CF options. Would I pay $195K for that car? No way in hell :), even if I never see another one like that, but to each his own.

    You need to set a price ceiling BEFORE you're faced with the car you want, but you can still do it now in a rational manner. If you have money to burn and don't care losing your butt on resale, then buy it. Otherwise play hardball with dealer, tell them your offer is good until you find another one, which might take a day or 100, and let fate decide :). On this economy, they'd be stupid not to take a reasonable offer, but might take some time. In the mean time, you can keep looking. And as I said, the less flexible you are, the more it's going to cost you :). Good luck man.
     

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