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  1. Michael Muller

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    Sorry, forgot that one....
     
  2. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    The 599XX has 300 more HP than we have with restriction as well as movable aero vs our fixed aero.
     
  3. a.shu

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    I'm not really familiar with the rules and regulations of the VLN/24h race, but would this be a problem for your drivers?

    http://adac.24h-rennen.de/Fahrerqualifikation-24h-Rennen.4248.0.html?&L=1
     
  4. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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  5. bwiele

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    I don't have a good excuse for not following this thread since it began, so I won't try to come up with a bad one. But now I've read all the posts on all 168 pages, and all I can say is Wow, and Rock On! Mr. Glickenhaus - I'm pretty much a neighbor of yours in Westchester and would consider it an honor to meet you at some point. All the best of luck with the ongoing process with the car and your endeavors. Thank you for everything you've done to include us - it speaks volumes about you.
     
  6. Reddol

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    A similar thing happened in the WTCC championship.
    SEAT(a Spanish brand owned by VW group for those who don't know it) easily won with their Leon TDi the titles in 2008 and 2009.
    In 2009 the boost pressure got modified some times after other teams complained about the fact TD cars had a clear advantage.
     
  7. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    #3357 Napolis, Apr 28, 2011
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    From Barton Workman


    Unique TDI engine for the Audi R18 TDI
    Only six weeks to go before the 24 Hours of Le Mans
    Compact V6 TDI power unit with single turbocharger
    Exhaust manifold and VTG sit between cylinder banks


    Ingolstadt, April 28, 2011 - The new Audi R18 TDI with which Audi targets its tenth victory in the famous 24 Hours of Le Mans on June 11/12 is ready today with "tomorrow’s" technology. During development of the new LMP1 sports car the integration and future electrification of the powertrain and various possible concepts for energy recuperation have been taken into account.

    "We are very conscious of such systems," explains Head of Audi Motorsport Dr. Wolfgang Ullrich. "In our opinion, just as soon as this technology proves to be the most efficient we will use it at Le Mans."

    Although diesel engines have been repeatedly restricted by the regulations since their victorious introduction in 2006, Audi relies on TDI power once again for its new LMP1. "Audi invented the TDI engine and is convinced that this technology remains one of the most efficient and modern forms to power a car - especially at Le Mans where engines with high specific power, low fuel consumption and low emissions are a necessity."

    New regulations devised by the Automobile Club de L’Ouest (ACO) and introduced this year dictate significantly smaller engines. Audi has chosen a particularly compact 3.7 liter V6 TDI engine, which is about 25 per cent lighter than the V10 TDI power plant previously fitted to the older R15 TDI, and which leaves all options open for the technicians with regard to electrification and energy recuperation. "This would not be the case with a V8, for example, which is also permitted by the regulations," explains Ulrich Baretzky, Head of Engine Development at Audi Sport.

    However, Audi does not only surprise with its extremely compact engine. The concept is also innovative for an LMP1 sports car. To lower the center of gravity as much as possible and to improve airflow through the car, the exhaust manifolds were migrated from the left and right hand sides of the engine to sit between the two cylinder banks. "Hot side inside" is the name given to this concept by specialists, which was implemented in similar form in Formula 1 in the 1980s. But the V6 TDI engine powering the Audi R18 TDI, which has a cylinder angle of 120 degrees and thus an extremely low center of gravity, is technically generations further along the line and is also a technology-demonstrator for future production engines.

    In contrast to previous Audi Le Mans sports cars, which all had twin turbochargers, the R18 TDI is quite logically now only fitted with a single turbocharger that also sits above the engine and draws its air directly through the air scoop mounted on the roof. "In this way we are able to convert the dynamic pressure generated at high speeds with minimal losses into power," explains Dr. Martin Mühlmeier, Head of Technology at Audi Sport.

    The mono-turbo concept developed in cooperation with Garrett was only made possible by the variable turbine geometry (VTG) already used victoriously in the R15 TDI. "Otherwise the response characteristics of such a large turbocharger would just be too bad," explains Baretzky.

    The concept was continued logically through a single pipe exhaust that exits at the rear of the R18 TDI below the new fin which is stipulated by the regulations. "This also stands for Audi ultra lightweight technology," says Baretzky, "since we save components and weight - for example for a second diesel particle filter."

    Audi Sport has worked since July 2009 on the innovative engine concept for which numerous new routes had to be explored. To control the enormous ignition pressures and loads now only distributed between six cylinders, a unique method of cooling the cylinder heads was developed for the aluminum power unit, a concept that could also be interesting in the future for production.

    Owing to the compact engine and uncluttered flanks, the airflow from the coolers can now exit practically unobstructed through the rear end. "We could increase the aerodynamic efficiency of the car as a result," says Martin Mühlmeier, Head of Technology at Audi Sport. This aspect is even more important than ever before at Le Mans due to the reduction in engine power - for the Audi R18 TDI more than 397 kW (540 hp).

    Another unique aspect of the new Le Mans sports car is its unusual sound. The Audi R18 TDI is probably the quietest race car Audi Sport has ever built. "Noise is unused energy," stresses Dr. Wolfgang Ullrich who is delighted by the whispering murmur of the R18 TDI. "The sound is unique," raves Le Mans record winner Tom Kristensen. "It’s hard to describe. You have to hear it yourself. I think it’s fantastic."
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  8. texasmr2

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    #3358 texasmr2, Apr 28, 2011
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    Dare I say I just got my answer? Also I see Wiggins has alittle tried and true track time.
     
  9. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    While we would love to have that engine I doubt they'd give us one but a similar engine from a different manufacturer is what we're looking at.
     
  10. texasmr2

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    I took a shot lol!
     
  11. f308jack

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    Nice piece of machinery, although one has to wonder what they'll use it in in their normal production.

    Jim, am I right that you're not looking within mainland Europe for your engine? Going to the Royal wedding by any chance?
     
  12. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    No.

    For security reasons I can't say...
     
  13. f308jack

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    Second question had more to do with the location than the event;-)

    So, no Jaguar diesel then.
     
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  15. the_stig

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    Has anyone received any information from the gmail address that Jim posted re: P4 / 5 C clothing / merchandise?
     
  16. BigTex

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    Here, it's either Caterpillar or Cummins, but don't forget Mr. G's ties to the marine industry, where a smaller boutique firm might pattern something up fairly quickly....
     
  17. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    If you want something that's the way to order it.
     
  18. BigTex

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    What Post # was that info?

    NASA blocks the FB links......
     
  19. Napolis

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    "P4/5 MT" <[email protected]>,
     
  20. BigTex

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    Thank you, sir.....
     
  21. the_stig

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    Yes Jim I got that part of it just never received any reply to my enquiry. My impression was that we were signing up to be notified when stuff became avail or details became known. I was just questioning whether or not anyone else had received any acknowledgment of their email. Thanks.
     
  22. Napolis

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    I'll try to look into it.
     
  23. the_stig

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    Thanks Jim. BTW you pointed someone on FB to the order page for the models but even the pre-order links are not "live" yet. ;)
     
  24. jhietter

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    I think I know who. You have gotten me excited about the possibilities of diesel. I am anxious to see where this road will take you and the sport.

    Diesel does make sense for road cars as well. Torque is the new hp. An engine with loads of torque throughout the rev range will allow drivers to use more of the engine's performance more of the time than a high revving gas engine. Plus, my cars with tons of torque are just so-much-fun. Even accelerating for short bits at low speeds is fun with diesels because they don't have the very narrow sweet spots of high revving gas engines.

    The Ferrari 458 reaches peak torque of 398 ft lbs @ 6000rpm.
    The BMW X5 M reaches peak torque of 500 ft lbs from 1500 all the way to 5650 rpm.
     

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