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  1. dwall

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    #6276 dwall, May 10, 2011
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  2. jsalgatti

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    #6277 jsalgatti, May 10, 2011
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    Hi Dwall, nice pictures of Yahuarcocha race track in Ecuador, the first one in color of #38 250 LM 6107 of Fausto Merello and Pascal Michelet and the second of Tony Adamowicz 512 M/S 1014. Can you contact me at [email protected] as I am doing a research on those races. Meantime, another picture of 6107
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  3. Sire Bruno de Losckley

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    #6278 Sire Bruno de Losckley, May 11, 2011
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    1971: date? 12h de l'Équateur - Yahuarcocha (Perou)
    Fausto Merello/Pascal Michelet 250 LM "6107" n°38
    Tony Adamowicz 512 M Berlinetta "1014"


    you have please, the race number of 512 M and ranking of the two cars?
    and date of the race




    in 1970 the race in Perou with Merello/250 LM 6107 #8 is just??
     
  4. Sempre_gilles

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    #6279 Sempre_gilles, May 11, 2011
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    In my files:

    26.09.1971 "12 hours of Ecuador"

    1014 512 M Tony Adamowicz / Gregg Young #21 result: 1st
     
  5. JavierSWB

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  6. Olinto Morolli

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    Lorenzo Bandini, really, was one of the few Ferrari drivers,they were really "Ferrarista di cuore".
    probably the only one. "alla destra del drake, sempre"

    Regards
     
  7. piloti

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    What about Gilles? Surely "alla destra del drake, sempre"
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  8. Olinto Morolli

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    Yes, I agree, really, Nathan. And Michele Alboreto too. But, you remember what happened in Imola 82 between Gilles and Pironi .
    After this, Gilles is marked and he propose to leave the Scuderia Ferrari seriously, because they felt betrayed, by the team.
    But, Ok, "Gilles alla destra del drake" I've always thought. And Enzo Ferrari loved him.

    The big difference between Bandini and the rest,was willing to die for Ferrari.

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  9. piloti

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    This is probably the wrong thread for this discussion, but what's the difference between 'willing to die for Ferrari' and those that actually died in a Ferrari. e.g Collins, Musso, Castelloti, de Portago, Von Trips etc?
    Nathan
     
  10. Sire Bruno de Losckley

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    grazie mile. il risultato di Merelo no lo ai?
     
  11. Olinto Morolli

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    I know. I mean, Bandini, was a "home" driver. All pilots race to himself. Bandini, race by and for Ferrari. he always wanted to race for Ferrari. Scuderia Ferrari came first for him.

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  12. P 4 Staff

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    Not sure...but I believe Paul once told me this was some "timing devices".
    To get the exact time over a lap.

    Best.
     
  13. Sempre_gilles

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    Sorry, don't know the details of Merello / Michelet....
     
  14. wbaeumer

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    #6289 wbaeumer, May 12, 2011
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    ....with the Superfast.

    Photo comes from magazine L`EUROPEO (22. March 1964). Too big to scan it so I took a photo of it.

    Ciao!
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  15. Sire Bruno de Losckley

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    Fiorano 1972:

    pic: "L'Automobile" french magazine

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  16. humberto rosario

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    thanks mr. boudewijn & mr. claude the photos are very helpfull.
     
  17. tongascrew

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    There were great. drivers that right away come to mind who were NOT willing to die for Ferrari. Stirling Moss who for strictly personal reasons kept Ferrari at arms length and only drove Ferraris if they were entered privately.Juan Fangio who only drove as a works driver one year,1957,because he never like E F and he needed the money because all his savings in Argentine banks were frozen after the overthrow of the Peron dynasty. Evently he was able to recover his funds as he was a great hero in Argentina and he was able to establish that he was not an intergral part of the Peron dictatorship.Finall there was Phil Hill who was enough of his own man not to be intimidated by Ferrari who constantly lectured his drivers,particularly the Italians, they had to go faster. Phil just continued to win races and come back year after year. Finally with the Chiti revolution he had had enough and left.There were others but these three did it all Sports and F1 racing. just one man's opinion tongascrew
     
  18. wbaeumer

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    Not only that - Fangio never drove a Ferrari in his private race entries. He prefered the Maserati 300S - and he knew why....

    Ciao!
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  19. piloti

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    In the interests of accuracy; he was a works Ferrari driver in 1956 not 1957. He won the World Championship in the Lancia Ferrari.
    Nathan
     
  20. jj2728

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    #6295 jj2728, May 15, 2011
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    Maybe it's the language barrier which is perfectly understandable, but to imply that Bandini or any other Ferrari driver was willing to die for Ferrari is an abusrd notion. Sorry to go OT. To make up for it I'll add a photo:
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  21. GIOTTO

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    Niki Lauda & Ingeniere Antonio Tomaini.
     
  22. tongascrew

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    Of course. My mistake. It was 1956 he was with Ferrari. 1957 he went to Maseratti. Who can forget his victory at the 1957 German GP at the Ring. just one man's opinion tongascrew
     
  23. wbaeumer

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    ...eh...Maserati is the correct spelling..::))

    Ciao!
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  24. Olinto Morolli

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    Absolutely it is the language barrier. Otherwise; Lorenzo Bandini was the only one who felt the colors of Ferrari. certainly the only one Ferrari driver in Ferrari history.

    Regards
     
  25. Olinto Morolli

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    #6300 Olinto Morolli, May 18, 2011
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    Fangio wrote a book telling lies about Ferrari. instigated by their manager. the worst accusation was on the eve of the Monaco Grand Prix.

    when Fangio said ,was the idea of Enzo Ferrari of ​​sending a whore to the Fangio hotel room´s.
    Fangio thought there was a complot against him, orchestrated by Enzo Ferrari.Every day in his Ferrari driver days

    Years later, in a meeting between the two, Fangio would ask forgiveness for the book.

    Regards
     

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