I guess its all up to Webber....

I seem to recall Vellel bawling like a little girl in the pits after hitting Webber in Fuji 2007.

Everyone here knows I'm not a Vettel fan but he's doing a better job than Webber this year - his head is definitely in it while Webber doesn't seem to have the passion and drive that he displayed in 2010. Cmon Webber - get on the with the job already

 

where's your "boy" ?

oh, none can handle the heat

Webber handed vettels arse to him plenty of times and he had NO answer , go back and look at Monaco for instance, Vettel was falling further and further back.

He is unlike Schumacher in that Schuey could win from behind, all Vettel does is smash into people, ... you really should open your eyes when you watch these races, it is far more exciting

How long have you been watching F1 ?

I like to know how far back you have to google to try and look credible

please, continue babbling, you seem to be good at it

 

mentally beaten ??!!

have you lost the plot or what , what did Webber do when they took the new front wing from his car and put it on Vettel's, plus had Webber drive with the "suspect" chassis ?

He kicked Vettel's arse, but then facts don't weigh well with you, Disneyland must be your home address

What happened to Scott Speed (there's a misnomer if ever there was one) ?

 

No doubt Vettel is very talented, and deserves credit for what he and Red Bull have done in a short time!

 

http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2011/05/vettel-aiming-for-century-in-barcelona/

 

My fav drivers are MS and Alonso. One is a 7 time WDC, one is a 2 time WDC. They can "handle the heat." When Webber wins a WDC I'll eat a big plate of crow but I suspect I'll be going hungry.

I like how you bring up one race and attempt to build your whole argument off of it. Hilarious. Do you know how many races from 2009 and 2010 I could bring up where Webber got his ass handed to him by Vettel? Please describe these "plenty of times" you speak about? How many times did Webber outqualify Vettel last year? How many times did he out-race him? 5...maybe 6 times out of 19 races?

Of course Vettel can be beaten, anyone can. Unfortunately for you it's not going to be Mark Webber that will be doing it.

 

Irony at its best.

 

flawed chassis ??

the only thing flawed here is your argument, Vettel was beaten plenty of times last year by WEbber, does that FACT also elude you ?? (rhetorical)

I like MS and Button, Alonso is losing me when I was a big fan of his attitude to driving

Webber AND Alonso choked big time in the final race , BUT, they were good enough to get in the position to be challenging for the title .... where was the US driver ?

And just to remind the google brigade, we have had Brabham and Jones as past champions, Brabham being the only owner/manufacturer/driver to win the WDC .... how many others have done that ?? (rhetorical)

Vettel will fade into obscurity when the car is less than perfect

 

good one Mickey

 

Webber only really flat-out beat Vettel on PACE in two races, Spain and Monaco. 2. Out of 19. Speaks volumes...

What is your point? For someone that's "watched F1 for song long" don't tell me you've forgotton about Phil Hill and Mario Andretti?

Right, just like at Monza in 2008.

 

sorry, I must have missed your reply on how many US drivers are in F1 ...

 

That has nothing to do with what we're talking about.

 

Vettel has upped his game but he also has less pressure on him now with a WDC already under his belt at the ripe old age of 23.

 

exactly this is a huge weight lifted off his shoulders. is vettel better than webber, absolutely, but i don't think it's by a whole lot.

best drivers on the grid now IMO are alonso, vettel, hamilton, in that order.and for the record i hate alonso